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I've added it in the original post: > The part in question is a little addition to the normal window locks. You can slide the part over the window lock handle

I've added it in the original post: > The part in question is a little addition to the normal window locks. You can slide the part over the window lock handle and it will anchor itself between handle and window frame due to its geometry. My friend asked for this, so his children would not be able to open the windows and fall out.

mvdtnz 3y ago
I thought Etsy was an e-commerce platform targeted to arts and crafts? It makes sense to me that they would kick off a window safety system which doesn't seem to match their use case.
- martin_a 3y ago
  Yeah, I always thought about them that way, too. The wife of my friend thought Etsy would be a great place, because lots of people put caravaning accesoires up there for sale. There are also various hooks, cup holders and whatnot coming from 3D printers.
- lolinder 3y ago
  To be fair to OP, I don't see anything in Etsy's policies that would clearly prohibit this. It's not what they're known for, but it seem to me to fall under "handmade": > Everything listed as handmade must be made and/or designed by you, the seller. ... Regardless, makers must be creating their items with their own hands (or tools). My best guess is either their bots suspect that OP is outsourcing the work and didn't properly disclose it OR there's some unwritten policy that a 3D printed part that requires no additional assembly doesn't count as handmade. I can definitely sympathize with them wanting Etsy to at least spell out what policy they supposedly violated. https://www.etsy.com/legal/sellers/?ref=list#selling https://www.etsy.com/legal/sellers/?ref=list#selling https://www.etsy.com/legal/handmade https://www.etsy.com/legal/handmade https://www.etsy.com/legal/prohibited https://www.etsy.com/legal/prohibited
  - martin_a 3y ago
    > that OP is outsourcing the work and didn't properly disclose it Well, I could send them a photo of the 3D printer right behind me and me waving hands and displaying the OpenSCAD model code in the background... ;-)
    - weaksauce 3y ago
      I can't know for sure without seeing your page of course but there are other window lock covers for pets so it should be a thing that is allowed. My guess is that your email provider was too overzealous and you didn't respond to them quickly enough. or you didn't use your name or any other myriad reasons they might penalize you for it > 3. Being Transparent About Your Business > At Etsy, we value transparency. Transparency means that you honestly and accurately represent yourself, your items, and your business. As a handmade seller, you agree to: > Disclose in your About section the names and roles of people who help make your items or run your business; > Use your own words and photographs (not stock photos) to describe your items; and > Respond to any inquiries from us in a timely manner. We may ask you how your items are made, what workspace, tools, and equipment you use; and how you communicate and collaborate with the people who help you run your shop. > Remember: Our marketplace is built on trust. Providing false, inaccurate, or misleading information is prohibited by our Terms of Use. If we find that you’re not being open and honest with us, we may suspend or terminate your account.
      - martin_a 3y ago
        Ah, I've done all that, I've got nothing to hide. Wrote a nice "about me" text and all. If it was an undelivered mail... Well... Still nothing to nuke an account for.
- grugagag 3y ago
  They should refund, explain the reason for the ban, could be just brief as in “violated tos #2 with a link” and give a proper guidance to users beforehand that these items are not allowed. Seems to me like a blackhole left intentionally “unfixed” for extra revenue for etsy
- arp242 3y ago
  Etsy is always welcome to say "we don't want that king of stuff here, sorry". Etsy is not free to keep the money they're holding.
sottol 3y ago
Maybe a fire safety violation? I think windows can count as escape routes and probably need to be open able quickly.
- insickness 3y ago
  This or someone uses it expecting to keep children safe and a child falls out. Etsy gets sued.
  - benatkin 3y ago
    Or neither is likely to happen but it just isn't Etsy's job to verify that.

mvdtnz 3y ago

I thought Etsy was an e-commerce platform targeted to arts and crafts? It makes sense to me that they would kick off a window safety system which doesn't seem to match their use case.

martin_a 3y ago
Yeah, I always thought about them that way, too. The wife of my friend thought Etsy would be a great place, because lots of people put caravaning accesoires up there for sale. There are also various hooks, cup holders and whatnot coming from 3D printers.
lolinder 3y ago
To be fair to OP, I don't see anything in Etsy's policies that would clearly prohibit this. It's not what they're known for, but it seem to me to fall under "handmade": > Everything listed as handmade must be made and/or designed by you, the seller. ... Regardless, makers must be creating their items with their own hands (or tools). My best guess is either their bots suspect that OP is outsourcing the work and didn't properly disclose it OR there's some unwritten policy that a 3D printed part that requires no additional assembly doesn't count as handmade. I can definitely sympathize with them wanting Etsy to at least spell out what policy they supposedly violated. https://www.etsy.com/legal/sellers/?ref=list#selling https://www.etsy.com/legal/sellers/?ref=list#selling https://www.etsy.com/legal/handmade https://www.etsy.com/legal/handmade https://www.etsy.com/legal/prohibited https://www.etsy.com/legal/prohibited
- martin_a 3y ago
  > that OP is outsourcing the work and didn't properly disclose it Well, I could send them a photo of the 3D printer right behind me and me waving hands and displaying the OpenSCAD model code in the background... ;-)
  - weaksauce 3y ago
    I can't know for sure without seeing your page of course but there are other window lock covers for pets so it should be a thing that is allowed. My guess is that your email provider was too overzealous and you didn't respond to them quickly enough. or you didn't use your name or any other myriad reasons they might penalize you for it > 3. Being Transparent About Your Business > At Etsy, we value transparency. Transparency means that you honestly and accurately represent yourself, your items, and your business. As a handmade seller, you agree to: > Disclose in your About section the names and roles of people who help make your items or run your business; > Use your own words and photographs (not stock photos) to describe your items; and > Respond to any inquiries from us in a timely manner. We may ask you how your items are made, what workspace, tools, and equipment you use; and how you communicate and collaborate with the people who help you run your shop. > Remember: Our marketplace is built on trust. Providing false, inaccurate, or misleading information is prohibited by our Terms of Use. If we find that you’re not being open and honest with us, we may suspend or terminate your account.
    - martin_a 3y ago
      Ah, I've done all that, I've got nothing to hide. Wrote a nice "about me" text and all. If it was an undelivered mail... Well... Still nothing to nuke an account for.
grugagag 3y ago
They should refund, explain the reason for the ban, could be just brief as in “violated tos #2 with a link” and give a proper guidance to users beforehand that these items are not allowed. Seems to me like a blackhole left intentionally “unfixed” for extra revenue for etsy
arp242 3y ago
Etsy is always welcome to say "we don't want that king of stuff here, sorry". Etsy is not free to keep the money they're holding.

sottol 3y ago

Maybe a fire safety violation? I think windows can count as escape routes and probably need to be open able quickly.

insickness 3y ago
This or someone uses it expecting to keep children safe and a child falls out. Etsy gets sued.
- benatkin 3y ago
  Or neither is likely to happen but it just isn't Etsy's job to verify that.