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I never empathized with her up until watching this video. Shaky-cam, typical parking lot, normal clothes. That could be me! My guess is she was nervous and a b

by sdwr 3y ago

I never empathized with her up until watching this video. Shaky-cam, typical parking lot, normal clothes. That could be me! My guess is she was nervous and a bit excited, with some background resignation. Almost first-day-of-school vibes. Minimum-security must be a lot like the outside world, with less freedom. Another world to explore and take root in. Life goes on.

CamperBob2 3y ago
It couldn't be you -- or at least shouldn't be -- unless you defrauded investors and patients like she did.
timbo1642 3y ago
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adamredwoods 3y ago
I have zero empathy for her. Defrauding actual medical patients is pretty bad. >> Brittany Gould testified that in 2014 she took a Theranos blood test at a Walgreens store in Arizona to measure a pregnancy hormone after learning that was expecting a baby, CNBC reports. After reviewing the results, Gould shared during the trial, "[My nurse practitioner] told me your numbers are falling, unfortunately, and that I was miscarrying." Because of those results, she switched her medication to something potentially harmful to the fetus. However, Gould took two more tests administered by Quest Diagnostics that confirmed she was still pregnant. She eventually delivered a healthy baby.[1] [1] https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/what-happened-to-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-patients-48735060 https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/what-happened-to-eliz... Besides, Martha Stewart, a past inmate, rebuilt her empire after insider trading, and was recently on Sports Illustrated! So I'm sure Holmes will bounce back.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  But Martha wasn't convicted in the court of public opinion.
- flappyeagle 3y ago
  Nah. People love Martha, and her crime is unrelated to her work and fame
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paulddraper 3y ago
Everyone is human, with very human reactions. Even celebrities. I'm not excusing choices. Just saying we all sh*t on a toilet.
bko 3y ago
I lost all sympathy when she had two children while awaiting a trial that would almost certainly end in a lengthy prison sentence. Of course she used that fact to reduce her sentence. Considering that she's also pretty old (39 now), she likely went to fertility treatment to get pregnant. I don't understand how a woman could willfully have children knowing she won't be around to raise them and try to use them for leverage. Really sociopathic behavior
- elcritch 3y ago
  Seems terrible, but maybe that ole biological clock was kicking in and she figured she'd not get a chance in prison? Though she'd seem type to try and to something sociopathic too.
- renewiltord 3y ago
  It sounds pretty natural, actually. Wanting to have children is probably one of the most overwhelming natural directives we face. It was her last shot at it because she might well be menopausal when she comes out, depending on how much she actually serves.
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    - renewiltord 3y ago
      It's not sociopathic to want children and to take your only shot at them. If you think you could perhaps get out in 5 years, you've missed some early years but your children will grow to love you. If you'd waited you'd be childless since that is a risky pregnancy at 44. In her place, I would do the same, and I"m not a sociopath by any means.
      - ryanklee 3y ago
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clnq 3y ago
Yeah, that's the image of herself she's been trying to paint recently, with the help of some media outlets[1]. In the same article, she and the author also claim that what she did was influenced by the world putting good women like her down - the sexism argument: > Ms. Holmes said she believed that making herself the poster girl for women in tech put a huge target on her back. > Don’t girl boss too close to the sun, or this could happen to you … I think at a certain level of obvious sociopathy, all this grasping of straws to rehabilitate one's image (and in some cases shed the blame) are useless. I would hope no one genuinely thinks that her wearing pastel colours and using a couple of kids as leverage makes her any less of a criminal who would have been willing to commit medical fraud and kill others out of greed. [1] https://archive.is/Ajkoz https://archive.is/Ajkoz

by sdwr 3y ago

CamperBob2 3y ago

It couldn't be you -- or at least shouldn't be -- unless you defrauded investors and patients like she did.

timbo1642 3y ago

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adamredwoods 3y ago

I have zero empathy for her. Defrauding actual medical patients is pretty bad. >> Brittany Gould testified that in 2014 she took a Theranos blood test at a Walgreens store in Arizona to measure a pregnancy hormone after learning that was expecting a baby, CNBC reports. After reviewing the results, Gould shared during the trial, "[My nurse practitioner] told me your numbers are falling, unfortunately, and that I was miscarrying." Because of those results, she switched her medication to something potentially harmful to the fetus. However, Gould took two more tests administered by Quest Diagnostics that confirmed she was still pregnant. She eventually delivered a healthy baby.[1] [1] https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/what-happened-to-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-patients-48735060 https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/what-happened-to-eliz... Besides, Martha Stewart, a past inmate, rebuilt her empire after insider trading, and was recently on Sports Illustrated! So I'm sure Holmes will bounce back.

paulddraper 3y ago
But Martha wasn't convicted in the court of public opinion.
flappyeagle 3y ago
Nah. People love Martha, and her crime is unrelated to her work and fame
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paulddraper 3y ago

Everyone is human, with very human reactions. Even celebrities. I'm not excusing choices. Just saying we all sh*t on a toilet.

bko 3y ago

I lost all sympathy when she had two children while awaiting a trial that would almost certainly end in a lengthy prison sentence. Of course she used that fact to reduce her sentence. Considering that she's also pretty old (39 now), she likely went to fertility treatment to get pregnant. I don't understand how a woman could willfully have children knowing she won't be around to raise them and try to use them for leverage. Really sociopathic behavior

elcritch 3y ago
Seems terrible, but maybe that ole biological clock was kicking in and she figured she'd not get a chance in prison? Though she'd seem type to try and to something sociopathic too.
renewiltord 3y ago
It sounds pretty natural, actually. Wanting to have children is probably one of the most overwhelming natural directives we face. It was her last shot at it because she might well be menopausal when she comes out, depending on how much she actually serves.
- ryanklee 3y ago
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  - renewiltord 3y ago
    It's not sociopathic to want children and to take your only shot at them. If you think you could perhaps get out in 5 years, you've missed some early years but your children will grow to love you. If you'd waited you'd be childless since that is a risky pregnancy at 44. In her place, I would do the same, and I"m not a sociopath by any means.
    - ryanklee 3y ago
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clnq 3y ago

Yeah, that's the image of herself she's been trying to paint recently, with the help of some media outlets[1]. In the same article, she and the author also claim that what she did was influenced by the world putting good women like her down - the sexism argument: > Ms. Holmes said she believed that making herself the poster girl for women in tech put a huge target on her back. > Don’t girl boss too close to the sun, or this could happen to you … I think at a certain level of obvious sociopathy, all this grasping of straws to rehabilitate one's image (and in some cases shed the blame) are useless. I would hope no one genuinely thinks that her wearing pastel colours and using a couple of kids as leverage makes her any less of a criminal who would have been willing to commit medical fraud and kill others out of greed. [1] https://archive.is/Ajkoz https://archive.is/Ajkoz