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>some post-9/11 hysterical nonsense. That's because it is lol. Remember this incident? Fun stuff. https://web.archive.org/web/20230421210739/https://www.thea

>some post-9/11 hysterical nonsense. That's because it is lol. Remember this incident? Fun stuff. https://web.archive.org/web/20230421210739/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/a-nasa-engineer-is-required-to-unlock-his-phone-at-the-border/516489/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230421210739/https://www.theat... "A NASA Engineer Was Required to Unlock His Phone at the Border A U.S.-born scientist was detained at the Houston airport until he gave customs agents the passcode to his work-issued device."

sidewndr46 3y ago
Wouldn't that be a violation of NASA policy and possibly some other Federal agency policies?
- reaperman 3y ago
  Yeah but kind of force majeure at that point.
ajsnigrutin 3y ago
How long can they detain you for? Foreigners i understand... either give the passcode or go back home... but local citizens? (i've argued more than once at my countries border, and there's not much that they can do)
- bumby 3y ago
  Constitutional due process in the United States applies to both citizens and non citizens alike.
  - wrycoder 3y ago
    Recent events cause me to sincerely doubt that.
    - bumby 3y ago
      I think your referring to de facto, my statement was about de jure.
  - kelnos 3y ago
    In theory, yes. But in reality, a non-citizen has much more to lose (being denied entry, which is a stain that remains on your record for quite some time) from arguing with a CBP officer about their rights than a citizen does. The law is irrelevant when LEOs can side-step it whenever they want.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - bumby 3y ago
      This goes for any law, citizen or not. Equal protection does not mean equality of costs. Some people will have more to lose by fighting a traffic ticket in court. It doesn’t mean they have less rights to do so. Saying the system is structured to be unfair is a different argument than saying the system doesn’t afford the same rights.

sidewndr46 3y ago

Wouldn't that be a violation of NASA policy and possibly some other Federal agency policies?

reaperman 3y ago
Yeah but kind of force majeure at that point.

ajsnigrutin 3y ago

How long can they detain you for? Foreigners i understand... either give the passcode or go back home... but local citizens? (i've argued more than once at my countries border, and there's not much that they can do)

bumby 3y ago
Constitutional due process in the United States applies to both citizens and non citizens alike.
- wrycoder 3y ago
  Recent events cause me to sincerely doubt that.
  - bumby 3y ago
    I think your referring to de facto, my statement was about de jure.
- kelnos 3y ago
  In theory, yes. But in reality, a non-citizen has much more to lose (being denied entry, which is a stain that remains on your record for quite some time) from arguing with a CBP officer about their rights than a citizen does. The law is irrelevant when LEOs can side-step it whenever they want.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - bumby 3y ago
    This goes for any law, citizen or not. Equal protection does not mean equality of costs. Some people will have more to lose by fighting a traffic ticket in court. It doesn’t mean they have less rights to do so. Saying the system is structured to be unfair is a different argument than saying the system doesn’t afford the same rights.