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Well the evidence is there on youtube if you'd like, lots and lots of videos of border patrol letting people go who show no ID at all. Seems to support the audi

Well the evidence is there on youtube if you'd like, lots and lots of videos of border patrol letting people go who show no ID at all. Seems to support the auditor's POV. I have no dog in this fight, just an intellectual curiosity.

rootusrootus 3y ago
I don't really trust YT as a source for any kind of facts. CBP is pretty specific about documentation required to enter the country. If you're a citizen and you lack any documentation, you're going to be sitting around for hours while they determine (to their satisfaction) that you're who you claim to be. It would also only really apply at a land crossing, I imagine. You can't even get on a plane that's entering the US without showing your passport at the departure gate. At that point your only option if you really are without documentation is to find the nearest US consulate and get some travel papers.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  > CBP is pretty specific about documentation required to enter the country. My last flight to Seattle from Mexico a few weeks ago (also, note that I'm an LPR, and not a citizen) I walked up to the CBP immigration counter, looked at a webcam, the officer looked at his computer, said "[my name]?" "Yes." "You're good to go." I had, of course, my passport and green card on me, but they were held by my side the entire time. He didn't ask for them.
  - woobar 3y ago
    They have linked your face to the photo in your passport/green card. By looking into the camera you agreed for them to perform the lookup of your ID. It is probably more secure than looking at a physical ID that could be fake.
  - ricktdotorg 3y ago
    green card holder here, this exact thing happened to me last time i flew into US from EU. i even asked the CBP guy, "you don't need to see my passport or green card"? "nope" was the response as he waved me through.
- kelnos 3y ago
  We're not talking about entering the country; we're talking about CBP's absurd "interior checkpoints". They'll set up roadblocks on a random highway well inside Texas or Arizona or whatever, and stop everyone driving by to ask them about their citizenship status. You don't really have to "trust YT" here; there are plenty of videos of the encounters themselves, where people stubbornly refuse to answer the CBP agent's questions until the agent gives up and waves them through. Sure, you can argue that they're staged or something, but the sheer number of them would at least put some doubt on that claim.
dylan604 3y ago
Yes, that sounds like horrible advice. Trust your legal standing to some video you saw on YT (said no lawyer ever).
- jamesdwilson 3y ago
  I never suggested to follow any advice from youtube and I don't think your take is charitable.
flerchin 3y ago
This is at Border Patrol Interior checkpoints. At which you are not required to do anything except stop and ask them to let you leave.
- chasd00 3y ago
  Can confirm. I’ve been through a number of those checkpoints in SW Texas. You stop they ask a question or two and then you’re waved through. I’ve never been asked to show ID. On one occasion they did have a dog walk around the car but I think that is done randomly. /before people ask: I’m white my wife is Mexican.

rootusrootus 3y ago

I don't really trust YT as a source for any kind of facts. CBP is pretty specific about documentation required to enter the country. If you're a citizen and you lack any documentation, you're going to be sitting around for hours while they determine (to their satisfaction) that you're who you claim to be. It would also only really apply at a land crossing, I imagine. You can't even get on a plane that's entering the US without showing your passport at the departure gate. At that point your only option if you really are without documentation is to find the nearest US consulate and get some travel papers.

FireBeyond 3y ago
> CBP is pretty specific about documentation required to enter the country. My last flight to Seattle from Mexico a few weeks ago (also, note that I'm an LPR, and not a citizen) I walked up to the CBP immigration counter, looked at a webcam, the officer looked at his computer, said "[my name]?" "Yes." "You're good to go." I had, of course, my passport and green card on me, but they were held by my side the entire time. He didn't ask for them.
- woobar 3y ago
  They have linked your face to the photo in your passport/green card. By looking into the camera you agreed for them to perform the lookup of your ID. It is probably more secure than looking at a physical ID that could be fake.
- ricktdotorg 3y ago
  green card holder here, this exact thing happened to me last time i flew into US from EU. i even asked the CBP guy, "you don't need to see my passport or green card"? "nope" was the response as he waved me through.
kelnos 3y ago
We're not talking about entering the country; we're talking about CBP's absurd "interior checkpoints". They'll set up roadblocks on a random highway well inside Texas or Arizona or whatever, and stop everyone driving by to ask them about their citizenship status. You don't really have to "trust YT" here; there are plenty of videos of the encounters themselves, where people stubbornly refuse to answer the CBP agent's questions until the agent gives up and waves them through. Sure, you can argue that they're staged or something, but the sheer number of them would at least put some doubt on that claim.

dylan604 3y ago

Yes, that sounds like horrible advice. Trust your legal standing to some video you saw on YT (said no lawyer ever).

jamesdwilson 3y ago
I never suggested to follow any advice from youtube and I don't think your take is charitable.

flerchin 3y ago

This is at Border Patrol Interior checkpoints. At which you are not required to do anything except stop and ask them to let you leave.

chasd00 3y ago
Can confirm. I’ve been through a number of those checkpoints in SW Texas. You stop they ask a question or two and then you’re waved through. I’ve never been asked to show ID. On one occasion they did have a dog walk around the car but I think that is done randomly. /before people ask: I’m white my wife is Mexican.