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it is important to point out that wasmer is an organization that is not in good standing with the wasm/wasi community until that is resolved, their products sh

it is important to point out that wasmer is an organization that is not in good standing with the wasm/wasi community until that is resolved, their products should probably not be viewed in good faith

waynr 3y ago
How involved are you in the WASM/WASI community? In your view, what would it take to get the not-in-good-standing issue resolved? What do you get out of shitposting Wasmer when they announce an initiative they are excited about? (I'm mostly trying to understand your psychology, not whether or if you have some kind of competing financial interest)
- preseinger 3y ago
  you don't get to classify my comments as "shitposting" i'm summarizing well-understood opinions of the ecosystem
- preseinger 3y ago
  > In your view, what would it take to get the not-in-good-standing issue resolved? probably the most effective way would be for the organization to release a statement abdicating their previous controversial positions, and for the CEO to resign
circuit10 3y ago
Can you explain more?
- circuit10 3y ago
  Is it this? https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks-extended https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks-extended
  - preseinger 3y ago
    that's the beginning of it, basically, yes
  - kortex 3y ago
    Probably that plus other things https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30785511 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30785511 Also "we didn't sign the agreement but the lawyers pushed the application forward anyways" sounds very...un-lawyer-y. Kinda sus.
    - syrusakbary 3y ago
      https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks
      - kortex 3y ago
        Yeah, I read all that. I still don't understand why/how the lawyers went ahead with the trademark process before the engagement letter was signed. Like, I want to believe you, it just seems weird of lawyers to do the thing without the i's dotted and t's crossed. I can see software devs totally barging ahead, but lawyers, less so.

waynr 3y ago

How involved are you in the WASM/WASI community? In your view, what would it take to get the not-in-good-standing issue resolved? What do you get out of shitposting Wasmer when they announce an initiative they are excited about? (I'm mostly trying to understand your psychology, not whether or if you have some kind of competing financial interest)

preseinger 3y ago
you don't get to classify my comments as "shitposting" i'm summarizing well-understood opinions of the ecosystem
preseinger 3y ago
> In your view, what would it take to get the not-in-good-standing issue resolved? probably the most effective way would be for the organization to release a statement abdicating their previous controversial positions, and for the CEO to resign

circuit10 3y ago

Can you explain more?

circuit10 3y ago
Is it this? https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks-extended https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks-extended
- preseinger 3y ago
  that's the beginning of it, basically, yes
- kortex 3y ago
  Probably that plus other things https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30785511 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30785511 Also "we didn't sign the agreement but the lawyers pushed the application forward anyways" sounds very...un-lawyer-y. Kinda sus.
  - syrusakbary 3y ago
    https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks https://wasmer.io/posts/wasmer-and-trademarks
    - kortex 3y ago
      Yeah, I read all that. I still don't understand why/how the lawyers went ahead with the trademark process before the engagement letter was signed. Like, I want to believe you, it just seems weird of lawyers to do the thing without the i's dotted and t's crossed. I can see software devs totally barging ahead, but lawyers, less so.