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Bad faith debaters will always debate bad faith When it was called "Global Warming", Republican spin doctors were bringing in snowballs into Congress to illust

Bad faith debaters will always debate bad faith When it was called "Global Warming", Republican spin doctors were bringing in snowballs into Congress to illustrate how ridiculous the concept is. You STILL hear this from modern conservatives every time there is any unexpected cold snap or "polar vortex": "So much for global warming, amirite?"

godshatter 3y ago
In this PBS frontline interview Senator Timothy Wirth discusses how he scheduled James Hansen's 1988 Senate hearing on climate change for the day that was historically the hottest day of the year and how they opened all the windows so the air conditioners couldn't keep up prior to the hearing so that it was unbearably hot during the session: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/interviews/wirth.html https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/intervi... Neither side seems to be above "bad faith debating".
- deanCommie 3y ago
  One side has truth and scientific consensus on its side, as well the prosperity of the human race, and the LIVES of billions of individuals on the line. The other side to extend corporate subsidies and fossil fuel company profits for another generation and get themselves a nice fat retirement cushion from lobbyist contributions. Comparing their tactics for influence misses the forest for the trees.
Izkata 3y ago
Stuff like that is why the messaging switched from "global warming" to "global climate change". Both are valid, they just refer to different things: Global warming - The tiny increase in the global average temperature, as a representation of how much energy is in the system. The average person has no real idea what this means. Global climate change - The knock-on effects of that increase in energy, referring to more localized effects like larger hurricanes, temperature swings, destabilization of the polar vortex, and so on.
- wilg 3y ago
  Talking about climate change is good, but the root cause is the warming and that’s what’s actionable.
wilg 3y ago
I agree it won’t help bad faith debaters. But it’s interesting the bad faith people prefer “climate change”.
- yongjik 3y ago
  They don't "prefer" climate change, they just distort every term to suit their needs. Global Warming: Look at this blizzard! So much for Global Warming! Climate Change: Climate is always changing, what's the problem? Rename "Global Warming" to "Climate Change": Scientists can't defend the global warming hoax any more, that's why they're changing! Do not rename "Global Warming": Look at this blizzard, and they won't even admit how misleading their "theory" is! ...ad nauseum

godshatter 3y ago

In this PBS frontline interview Senator Timothy Wirth discusses how he scheduled James Hansen's 1988 Senate hearing on climate change for the day that was historically the hottest day of the year and how they opened all the windows so the air conditioners couldn't keep up prior to the hearing so that it was unbearably hot during the session: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/interviews/wirth.html https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/intervi... Neither side seems to be above "bad faith debating".

deanCommie 3y ago
One side has truth and scientific consensus on its side, as well the prosperity of the human race, and the LIVES of billions of individuals on the line. The other side to extend corporate subsidies and fossil fuel company profits for another generation and get themselves a nice fat retirement cushion from lobbyist contributions. Comparing their tactics for influence misses the forest for the trees.

Izkata 3y ago

Stuff like that is why the messaging switched from "global warming" to "global climate change". Both are valid, they just refer to different things: Global warming - The tiny increase in the global average temperature, as a representation of how much energy is in the system. The average person has no real idea what this means. Global climate change - The knock-on effects of that increase in energy, referring to more localized effects like larger hurricanes, temperature swings, destabilization of the polar vortex, and so on.

wilg 3y ago
Talking about climate change is good, but the root cause is the warming and that’s what’s actionable.

wilg 3y ago

I agree it won’t help bad faith debaters. But it’s interesting the bad faith people prefer “climate change”.

yongjik 3y ago
They don't "prefer" climate change, they just distort every term to suit their needs. Global Warming: Look at this blizzard! So much for Global Warming! Climate Change: Climate is always changing, what's the problem? Rename "Global Warming" to "Climate Change": Scientists can't defend the global warming hoax any more, that's why they're changing! Do not rename "Global Warming": Look at this blizzard, and they won't even admit how misleading their "theory" is! ...ad nauseum