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If only El Chapo and his cohorts were smart enough to sell drugs the legal way and get away with it...

wmf 3y ago
Mexican cartels have started inserting themselves into legal businesses like farming within their territory, increasing prices and taking the resulting profits.
- kevviiinn 3y ago
  What does that have to do with the statement of the OP?
NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
Purdue manufactured opioids in measured doses without unsafe adulterants. Guess what? Junkies lived. Turns out that when they get a clean high manufactured by competent pharmaceutical engineers, they tend not to be found catatonic by callous law enforcement who say "fuck it" and refuse to save their lives with the naloxone they have with them. When did junkies start dying? With the supply of oxy dried up because the DEA shut down pill mills, they had no other options than dirty street heroin that it turns out is mostly just fentanyl and carfentanyl. I have no clue how this is considered an improvement by the media that reports on such things, or why so many are so eager to buy it. If El Chapo started selling clean/safe drugs that didn't kill people, how the fuck would he be anything other than a goddamned hero? How many are dying of overdoses every week again?
- bb88 3y ago
  When a company pursues to market an addictive drug, and knowingly sells it to counties that had 5 to 10 times more opioid prescriptions than people, that's illegal and that should be stopped. Knowing this and allowing them to do it anyway would be a dystopia I want no part of.
  - NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
    > that's illegal and that should be stopped. It should be legalized. Death-by-opiate/opioid-overdose shrank while they were selling this. Shutting down the pill mills killed people. Like, more people are dying now than otherwise would. And you're ok with that? I guess when the DEA makes up bullshit, you're just happy to parrot it. > Knowing this and allowing them to do it anyway would be a dystopia I want no part of. You're in the dystopia now. You're just insulated from it. Something close to 100,000 people will this year because they're using dirty street drugs and fucking elephant tranquilizer instead of Purdue's safe drugs. WTF. I wish I got to live in a world where evil was committed by supervillains doing it deliberately, rather than this clownworld where people do it and think they're the good guys. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go do some fucking self-reflection.
    - kevviiinn 3y ago
      You're absolutely correct, prohibition is what is actually causing all of the overdose deaths. If we had a legal and regulated system of drugs then the supply would be high quality and consistent and people would know exactly what they were getting
  - rgbgraph 3y ago
    Just because you feel a certain way, doesn't mean you should act on it -- you're bound to make a less-than-optimal decision when emotions get in the way. The above is the equivalent of finding out your child has been an alcoholic for the past decade, and abruptly shutting down all liquor stores in your town. Your child is going to start having seizures, and your town will be incredibly irritated at you for being so hasty.
    - bb88 3y ago
      Let's stop using analogies since they can be atrocious. Your analogy ("Oh it's just like alcohol") is even more so. Alcohol poisoning deaths are a rounding error compared to actual opioid deaths. Death from alcohol ODs are around 2400/year. The last year of opioid deaths from OD's in 2022 were 106,000.
- EdwardDiego 3y ago
  > When did junkies start dying? With the supply of oxy dried up Citation needed.
- didntknowya 3y ago
  or you can try not to get people addicted in the first place
refurb 3y ago
Well, if El Chapo got FDA approval of their drugs and promoted them in line with US laws, then yeah, they'd probably get away with it.

wmf 3y ago

Mexican cartels have started inserting themselves into legal businesses like farming within their territory, increasing prices and taking the resulting profits.

kevviiinn 3y ago
What does that have to do with the statement of the OP?

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago

Purdue manufactured opioids in measured doses without unsafe adulterants. Guess what? Junkies lived. Turns out that when they get a clean high manufactured by competent pharmaceutical engineers, they tend not to be found catatonic by callous law enforcement who say "fuck it" and refuse to save their lives with the naloxone they have with them. When did junkies start dying? With the supply of oxy dried up because the DEA shut down pill mills, they had no other options than dirty street heroin that it turns out is mostly just fentanyl and carfentanyl. I have no clue how this is considered an improvement by the media that reports on such things, or why so many are so eager to buy it. If El Chapo started selling clean/safe drugs that didn't kill people, how the fuck would he be anything other than a goddamned hero? How many are dying of overdoses every week again?

bb88 3y ago
When a company pursues to market an addictive drug, and knowingly sells it to counties that had 5 to 10 times more opioid prescriptions than people, that's illegal and that should be stopped. Knowing this and allowing them to do it anyway would be a dystopia I want no part of.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  > that's illegal and that should be stopped. It should be legalized. Death-by-opiate/opioid-overdose shrank while they were selling this. Shutting down the pill mills killed people. Like, more people are dying now than otherwise would. And you're ok with that? I guess when the DEA makes up bullshit, you're just happy to parrot it. > Knowing this and allowing them to do it anyway would be a dystopia I want no part of. You're in the dystopia now. You're just insulated from it. Something close to 100,000 people will this year because they're using dirty street drugs and fucking elephant tranquilizer instead of Purdue's safe drugs. WTF. I wish I got to live in a world where evil was committed by supervillains doing it deliberately, rather than this clownworld where people do it and think they're the good guys. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go do some fucking self-reflection.
  - kevviiinn 3y ago
    You're absolutely correct, prohibition is what is actually causing all of the overdose deaths. If we had a legal and regulated system of drugs then the supply would be high quality and consistent and people would know exactly what they were getting
- rgbgraph 3y ago
  Just because you feel a certain way, doesn't mean you should act on it -- you're bound to make a less-than-optimal decision when emotions get in the way. The above is the equivalent of finding out your child has been an alcoholic for the past decade, and abruptly shutting down all liquor stores in your town. Your child is going to start having seizures, and your town will be incredibly irritated at you for being so hasty.
  - bb88 3y ago
    Let's stop using analogies since they can be atrocious. Your analogy ("Oh it's just like alcohol") is even more so. Alcohol poisoning deaths are a rounding error compared to actual opioid deaths. Death from alcohol ODs are around 2400/year. The last year of opioid deaths from OD's in 2022 were 106,000.
EdwardDiego 3y ago
> When did junkies start dying? With the supply of oxy dried up Citation needed.
didntknowya 3y ago
or you can try not to get people addicted in the first place

refurb 3y ago

Well, if El Chapo got FDA approval of their drugs and promoted them in line with US laws, then yeah, they'd probably get away with it.