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Are there alternatives to the database service with similar API or is it leaving a gap in the market?

by barefeg 3y ago

tuukkah 3y ago
Neon is an awesome serverless Postgres: https://neon.tech/ https://neon.tech/
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
  Till the time they are also bought and "sunsetted." That's the problem with all these shiny startups.
  - rcoder 3y ago
    Neon at least has open-sourced their core offering, which provides a migration path for folks who make bigger bets on their platform. So yeah, there's every possibility they'll go away at some point, but unlike a lot of SaaS offerings, it's all Postgres over the wire and under the hood, so you have plenty of migration options (OSS, another managed Postgres vendor, Aurora, Cloud SQL, etc.)
    - nikita 3y ago
      Neon CEO here. Definitely. Of course Neon storage is a distributed system and you need to know how to run it. But a) we can help b) Percona is a trusted partner of us that can support self hosting for you.
      - tuukkah 3y ago
        Reassuring to know about the collaboration with Percona and that professional support for self-hosting is available if ever needed.
  - tuukkah 3y ago
    Not this one though, they are open source so someone else would start to offer new hosted instances: https://github.com/neondatabase/neon https://github.com/neondatabase/neon Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts It could potentially be one of their partners: Vercel https://neon.tech/docs/guides/vercel https://neon.tech/docs/guides/vercel Hasura https://neon.tech/docs/guides/hasura https://neon.tech/docs/guides/hasura
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      I keep expecting Vercel to be bought by Sitecore, given how they are replacing all the .NET stuff and pushing Vercel everywhere.
    - edude03 3y ago
      > Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts For the record though, they're not enough to run neon today[0] - this has been a "problem" since neon was announced here[1]. [0]: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts/issues/35#issue-1703639982 https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts/issues/35#issue-... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31540691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31540691
      - tuukkah 3y ago
        Yes, you'd have to do some own work to set up a direct competitor from the provided pieces. They have published a new piece which is how they vertically autoscale Postgres in Kubernetes: https://github.com/neondatabase/autoscaling https://github.com/neondatabase/autoscaling
        edude03 3y ago
        Yeah I'm not complaining - I mention it because if you're a bit.io customer that wants to migrate to another serverless Postgres solution you won't be able to do it by "just" running the linked helm charts. (In my opinion) when someone says here's the helm chart I assume running "helm install $THING" would give me a running version of $THING, so it's more so no one has the wrong expectations (like I would)
  - nikita 3y ago
    Neon CEO. We are certainly not going to sunset Neon any time soon. We are extremely well funded and also growing super quickly. Expect some exciting announcements soon!
    - jfbaro 3y ago
      coW? So devs can have their ephemeral databases in seconds at no cost? Only the reads and writes they use and the “delta” storage of their thin clone? Bitenporal support? Smart anonymization (like Tonic.AI)? Looking forward to hearing the announcements
- boomskats 3y ago
  Second Neon, they know what they're doing. It's not their first rodeo.
ed25519FUUU 3y ago
Amazon serverless Postgres aurora.
brightball 3y ago
I don't know about serverless, but it's hard to beat Crunchydata for PostgreSQL these days. They're my goto.
- boomskats 3y ago
  Just make sure you've got your pricing structure & terms negotiated and agreed with them well in advance of putting it into prod.
pistoriusp 3y ago
[disclosure: I'm the founder of Snaplet] I think there are a lot of different reasons why people may want to use a service like bit.io, but if you want a database with data in it to code against, run tests against, reproduce production related data-bugs, and run e2e tests against then check out https://www.snaplet.dev https://www.snaplet.dev.
eevo 3y ago
Render's offering is really good. Backups, read replica, many common extensions included. Fairly cheap. https://render.com/docs/databases https://render.com/docs/databases

Are there alternatives to the database service with similar API or is it leaving a gap in the market?

tuukkah 3y ago

Neon is an awesome serverless Postgres: https://neon.tech/ https://neon.tech/

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
Till the time they are also bought and "sunsetted." That's the problem with all these shiny startups.
- rcoder 3y ago
  Neon at least has open-sourced their core offering, which provides a migration path for folks who make bigger bets on their platform. So yeah, there's every possibility they'll go away at some point, but unlike a lot of SaaS offerings, it's all Postgres over the wire and under the hood, so you have plenty of migration options (OSS, another managed Postgres vendor, Aurora, Cloud SQL, etc.)
  - nikita 3y ago
    Neon CEO here. Definitely. Of course Neon storage is a distributed system and you need to know how to run it. But a) we can help b) Percona is a trusted partner of us that can support self hosting for you.
    - tuukkah 3y ago
      Reassuring to know about the collaboration with Percona and that professional support for self-hosting is available if ever needed.
- tuukkah 3y ago
  Not this one though, they are open source so someone else would start to offer new hosted instances: https://github.com/neondatabase/neon https://github.com/neondatabase/neon Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts It could potentially be one of their partners: Vercel https://neon.tech/docs/guides/vercel https://neon.tech/docs/guides/vercel Hasura https://neon.tech/docs/guides/hasura https://neon.tech/docs/guides/hasura
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    I keep expecting Vercel to be bought by Sitecore, given how they are replacing all the .NET stuff and pushing Vercel everywhere.
  - edude03 3y ago
    > Some Helm charts: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts For the record though, they're not enough to run neon today[0] - this has been a "problem" since neon was announced here[1]. [0]: https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts/issues/35#issue-1703639982 https://github.com/neondatabase/helm-charts/issues/35#issue-... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31540691 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31540691
    - tuukkah 3y ago
      Yes, you'd have to do some own work to set up a direct competitor from the provided pieces. They have published a new piece which is how they vertically autoscale Postgres in Kubernetes: https://github.com/neondatabase/autoscaling https://github.com/neondatabase/autoscaling
      - edude03 3y ago
        Yeah I'm not complaining - I mention it because if you're a bit.io customer that wants to migrate to another serverless Postgres solution you won't be able to do it by "just" running the linked helm charts. (In my opinion) when someone says here's the helm chart I assume running "helm install $THING" would give me a running version of $THING, so it's more so no one has the wrong expectations (like I would)
- nikita 3y ago
  Neon CEO. We are certainly not going to sunset Neon any time soon. We are extremely well funded and also growing super quickly. Expect some exciting announcements soon!
  - jfbaro 3y ago
    coW? So devs can have their ephemeral databases in seconds at no cost? Only the reads and writes they use and the “delta” storage of their thin clone? Bitenporal support? Smart anonymization (like Tonic.AI)? Looking forward to hearing the announcements
boomskats 3y ago
Second Neon, they know what they're doing. It's not their first rodeo.

ed25519FUUU 3y ago

Amazon serverless Postgres aurora.

brightball 3y ago

I don't know about serverless, but it's hard to beat Crunchydata for PostgreSQL these days. They're my goto.

boomskats 3y ago
Just make sure you've got your pricing structure & terms negotiated and agreed with them well in advance of putting it into prod.

pistoriusp 3y ago

[disclosure: I'm the founder of Snaplet] I think there are a lot of different reasons why people may want to use a service like bit.io, but if you want a database with data in it to code against, run tests against, reproduce production related data-bugs, and run e2e tests against then check out https://www.snaplet.dev https://www.snaplet.dev.

eevo 3y ago

Render's offering is really good. Backups, read replica, many common extensions included. Fairly cheap. https://render.com/docs/databases https://render.com/docs/databases