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Fastmail.com continues to delivery great innovations and open sources much of their work. They are the company largely behind this, check them out. (I'm not a
by tiffanyh 3y ago
Fastmail.com continues to delivery great innovations and open sources much of their work.
They are the company largely behind this, check them out.
(I'm not affiliated in any way to them)
- foxtacles 3y agoFully agree. I'm also a very happy Fastmail customer of over 10 years now; I could never go back to gmail
- stavros 3y agoSame here, whenever I have to open Gmail for work I'm annoyed.
- arp242 3y agoYou can connect FastMail to gmail and never look at gmail. Your employer may not approve if you hillary your emails like that though, but that's what I did at a previous employer where this wasn't an issue.
- stavros 3y agoI could, but I don't want to look at work emails outside working hours.
- foxtacles 3y agoHave you considered setting up a rule using the Snooze feature[0]? Using this it should be possible to delay all incoming work email until a time that is suitable for you. [0]: https://www.fastmail.com/blog/fastmail-snooze/ https://www.fastmail.com/blog/fastmail-snooze/ Edit: If you want your work emails to arrive only during work hours and otherwise delay them, you can use a Sieve condition in your email rule similar to this: anyof (date :value "lt" "date" "hour" "09", date :value "ge" "date" "hour" "17")
- stavros 3y agoWell that's very interesting, thank you!
- hackernewds 3y agoI like your usage of Hillary as a verb. I don't understand the affinity against Gmail though. With the fastmail forwarding service are you still not using Gmail spam service and have Gmail access to your email anyways (not that I'd believe they do unless wearing a tinfoil hat)
- arp242 3y agoI just don't care much for gmail's UI; that's all there's to it. And having all email in one place is more convenient for me regardless – saves having to open/check another service. You're still using gmail's spam checking; it just uses the API (or IMAP? I forgot) to sync the emails to FastMail.
- psankar 3y ago> If you hillary your emails LOL
- dbrunton 3y agoCame here (and used Fastmail for password recovery) to say just this. I actually forget what it’s like to sell advertising on my correspondence!
- gersg 3y agoIf you don't enable "smart" features in gmail you don't see ads either.
- TylerE 3y agoI tried, but fm’s spam filtering is just hot garbage. Both false negatives and (more troublesome) false positives. It’s like stepping back in time 20 years when soamassassin with default config is as good as it gets.
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- UberFly 3y agoI experience the opposite of this, but I guess everyone's use case is different. They do use SpamAssasin and it seems pretty effective.
- moozeek 3y agoI have the exact opposite experience and find Fastnail's spam detection quite superior. There is the occasional spam.email getting through - maybe 1 per day - despite the fact that I have quite a number of custom domains with catch-all email addresses. At the same time I really never have to check my spam folder for false positive, everything in there is literal spam so I forget checking it for weeks on end. Whereas on n Gmail I always need to check the spam folder, Google completely overdoes the filtering it and a lot of wanted emails end up in spam.
- chrismorgan 3y agoI think I’m up to two false positives after six years, neither of which was in any way important (in fact, I kinda agreed with its judgement), and I’m up to 175 false negatives in the last 5⅓ years (of which 32 are from the last twelve months, which suggests a fairly steady rate across the whole time; it comes to about one every eleven days). Before that, I used Gmail (on the same address, for about six years), and my memory is that its false positive rates were around one every month or two, and some of them actually mattered; and its false negative rates varied: sometimes it’d go for a few months with none, then it might let through one or two per day for a few weeks. Certainly less consistent. In the last year I’ve also had to use Gmail via a couple of organisations on addresses with very low volume (less than one per day) which have never received any spam, and both have had at least two false positives.
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- ndr 3y agoI wish their android app supported offline access. It's a huge PITA when you're offline (say in a venue with no cover) and need to pull a ticket out of your inbox. I'm a customer and can't believe they've been in business for so long. I guess this feature will never come.
- dogmatism 3y agoThat’s what imap clients are for
- the_pwner224 3y agoUnfortunately all the FOSS email clients for Android have horrible UI/UX.
- tristan957 3y agoEven K9 (now Thunderbird)?
- zilti 3y agoK9 is great
- synecdoche 3y agoCould FairEmail be of interest? https://email.faircode.eu/ https://email.faircode.eu/
- qingcharles 3y ago20 years here. One of the only companies I don't have a complaint about.
- dheera 3y agoHow are they funded, and are they profitable? I've been using Google Apps for email for 10+ years and I don't want my e-mail provider to die at the whim of some Sand Hill investor's emotions at a bay area house party.
- scblock 3y agoYou pay them.
- dheera 3y agoIs that enough for their company to be alive? Many startups offer paid services but it isn't enough to cover their own costs and salaries in the first several years; everything depends on investors willing to fund them through that period.
- Semaphor 3y agoFWIW, they are not a startup, they are 24 years old and (after being bought by opera and then buying themselves out again) fully independent [0]. They are also probably HN’s most beloved company, but that just as a side ;) [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastmail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastmail
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- hackernewds 3y ago> (after being bought by opera and then buying themselves out again) that history does not assign to me confidence in them as custodian of my emails
- Semaphor 3y agoThis was in 2010, not the opera you know today.
- taftster 3y agoWould love to use them. But the pricing is too much. I need a custom domain (or three). And I have a family of 6 people. So that's $5 / user / month = $30 / month = $360 / year. Unfortunately, that's not justifiable for me. And thus why I'm stuck using Gmail with a custom domain.
- WordSkill 3y ago"You can build an account where you mix and match the plan level to each user. For example, you can build a Fastmail Family by adding additional Standard and Basic plans for adults and children." - https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/ https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/ Only one of your accounts needs to be Standard tier ($50/y) to allow up to 100 custom domains. The other 5 accounts can be Basic tier ($30/y) and still use as many custom domains as you give them access to. Total undiscounted cost for your family would be $200/y. Use the 25% 1Password discount to reduce your total to $150/y. You have the option to extend that 25% discount up to 3yrs and receive an additional discount for paying in advance. Your total for your first 3 years would be $420, then $560 for each 3 years thereafter. Alternatively, you could consider allowing all your family members use the same Standard account ($105 for the first 3yrs) but with multiple email addresses. Use labels to surface each address for the relevant family member. In my case, I created a family@surname address for any family business, and a name@surname address for each family member. Each family member has set their Fastmail app to focus on their own address. Yes, technically, they can see each other's email, but it hasn't been a problem. I presume they use throwaway gmail accounts for stuff they want to keep totally private. We share a specific custom domain for our masked emails and love that feature, especially the 1Password integration although that has some rough edges.
- kstrauser 3y agoApple has an incredibly cheap option here. If you subscribe to iCloud+ (https://www.apple.com/icloud/ https://www.apple.com/icloud/), starting at $1/month, you can share one or more custom email domains with up to 6 people total. I've been using this for a year or so and my family's been happy with it.
- taftster 3y ago
- mannycalavera42 3y agoit's a shame they don't have (yet) a EU hosting :(
- pazimzadeh 3y agoInfomaniak is good too https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail/ https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail/