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> I wonder am I guilty to pirate Matlab? If you otherwise support the concept of intellectual property, you are. If you believe that Matlab is MathWorks "prope

> I wonder am I guilty to pirate Matlab? If you otherwise support the concept of intellectual property, you are. If you believe that Matlab is MathWorks "property", MathWorks is not obliged to sell you their property, and if you take what you believe is their property against their will, you are guilty. If you dont believe in intellectual property, then everything is allright.

pooriaazimi 15y ago
The world does not work like that; it's not easy to judge other people's actions unless you step into their shoes. I guess if it took you 45 minutes just to send an email, or 3 days to download Apple's new OS to develop/test on (Mountain Lion - around 4GB), then you wouldn't see the piracy issue (in countries that there are absolutely no alternatives) black and white anymore.
- muuh-gnu 15y ago
  I am nut "judging" him. He didnt give enough information to answer his question. My answer was that whether he should feel guilty or not depends on whether he supports intellectual property or not. I, for one, do not support the concept of intellectual property at all. If you ask me, copying Matlab is perfectly OK. But if he does support intellectual property, then he should accept the fact that MathWorks doesnt want to sell to him because he is an Iranian. He can not both support intellectual property _and_ simply make the excuse to steal because they refuse to sell. If that worked, he could also argue that it is ok to pirate because they refuse to sell for $5.
  - pooriaazimi 15y ago
    Actually it was clear that your post was not accusational, but rather a genuine question. I didn't mean to respond with a bad tone... sorry about that. If MathWorks didn't want to sell something to me (because they don't like the looks of roots of me), I wouldn't buy it even if my life depended on it (an ego thing) – the problem here is that MathWorks, Google, Apple, Amazon and other companies want to sell to me (it's their job, and I don't think they are any more racist than the average American!), but their it's government that prevents them. This is where you and I differ slightly: I support MathWork's IP, but at the same time I know that they can't sell to me only because of US sanctions. I copy Matlab (not really - I use Mathematica) and I see no moral dilemma here.
baltcode 15y ago
Matlab is considered MathWorks "property" because of the IP laws. These IP laws have jurisdiction over areas and peoples that are governed by the legislation that adopt these laws. Why would people who are not governed and protected by the legislations and laws (to do business etc.) of particular authorities be obligated to obey their laws? I am speaking rhetorically, of course, and I do want to support actual innovators to be paid for their efforts.

pooriaazimi 15y ago

The world does not work like that; it's not easy to judge other people's actions unless you step into their shoes. I guess if it took you 45 minutes just to send an email, or 3 days to download Apple's new OS to develop/test on (Mountain Lion - around 4GB), then you wouldn't see the piracy issue (in countries that there are absolutely no alternatives) black and white anymore.

muuh-gnu 15y ago
I am nut "judging" him. He didnt give enough information to answer his question. My answer was that whether he should feel guilty or not depends on whether he supports intellectual property or not. I, for one, do not support the concept of intellectual property at all. If you ask me, copying Matlab is perfectly OK. But if he does support intellectual property, then he should accept the fact that MathWorks doesnt want to sell to him because he is an Iranian. He can not both support intellectual property _and_ simply make the excuse to steal because they refuse to sell. If that worked, he could also argue that it is ok to pirate because they refuse to sell for $5.
- pooriaazimi 15y ago
  Actually it was clear that your post was not accusational, but rather a genuine question. I didn't mean to respond with a bad tone... sorry about that. If MathWorks didn't want to sell something to me (because they don't like the looks of roots of me), I wouldn't buy it even if my life depended on it (an ego thing) – the problem here is that MathWorks, Google, Apple, Amazon and other companies want to sell to me (it's their job, and I don't think they are any more racist than the average American!), but their it's government that prevents them. This is where you and I differ slightly: I support MathWork's IP, but at the same time I know that they can't sell to me only because of US sanctions. I copy Matlab (not really - I use Mathematica) and I see no moral dilemma here.

baltcode 15y ago

Matlab is considered MathWorks "property" because of the IP laws. These IP laws have jurisdiction over areas and peoples that are governed by the legislation that adopt these laws. Why would people who are not governed and protected by the legislations and laws (to do business etc.) of particular authorities be obligated to obey their laws? I am speaking rhetorically, of course, and I do want to support actual innovators to be paid for their efforts.