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Don't you think it's odd he is complaining about splash screens when Adobe is responsible for the worst thing to ever happen to the web -- those stupid flash in

Don't you think it's odd he is complaining about splash screens when Adobe is responsible for the worst thing to ever happen to the web -- those stupid flash intros ? Talk about a waste of time, you had to wait for the time waster to load and then wait for it to play

rsanchez1 15y ago
He's got first-hand experience to back up his complaining.
talmand 15y ago
Flash intros are the fault of the people who made them, not the software used to create them. When HTML5 canvas replaces Flash for such things will you then blame HTML5?
- jiggy2011 15y ago
  True, although from what I remember the flash development tools seemed to provide much functionality that seemed to be aimed specifically at creating things like this. IIRC there was something that was basically a "flash intro wizard" however this may well have just been added due to demand from developers for such features.
  - talmand 15y ago
    I don't recall such a wizard in Flash itself, although I wouldn't be surprised. That kind of thing seems something that a third-party would create and there are a large number of them out there. The main thing to remember was that the Flash intro, at one time, was an accepted practice. It was an easy way for a company to introduce itself, much like a commercial. It wasn't until it was overused that people started to dislike it and now people only remember disliking it.
    - motoford 15y ago
      I disagree that it was an accepted practice. I don't know of any technical person who didn't hate them from the very first time they saw one. Remember this was back during dial-up days and you had to wait forever for that crap to load. I can't tell you how many sites I left before ever seeing their content because when I saw flash loading I just switch back to my search engine and find the next link. Heck, I still do that. edit: I forgot to mention my even bigger gripe about the flash intros, and that was because I was basically being forced to sit through a commercial before I could interact with the company. It went (and goes) against the very basics of web use.
      - talmand 15y ago
        I would say the people defining an accepted practice are the people paying the bills. If the company wanted it, the technical person made it so they would get paid. I would admit it was probably the technical people who finally convinced the majority to abandon them. Plus the fact that over time they could see that the idea was failing them, much like you point out. But until that moment it was accepted practice among major websites. The fact you remember them so vividly in your dislike of them almost proves my point. But alas, I agree, they were a total waste of time. As I said, the people who pay the bills don't always listen to the people that they should listen to.

rsanchez1 15y ago

He's got first-hand experience to back up his complaining.

talmand 15y ago

Flash intros are the fault of the people who made them, not the software used to create them. When HTML5 canvas replaces Flash for such things will you then blame HTML5?

jiggy2011 15y ago
True, although from what I remember the flash development tools seemed to provide much functionality that seemed to be aimed specifically at creating things like this. IIRC there was something that was basically a "flash intro wizard" however this may well have just been added due to demand from developers for such features.
- talmand 15y ago
  I don't recall such a wizard in Flash itself, although I wouldn't be surprised. That kind of thing seems something that a third-party would create and there are a large number of them out there. The main thing to remember was that the Flash intro, at one time, was an accepted practice. It was an easy way for a company to introduce itself, much like a commercial. It wasn't until it was overused that people started to dislike it and now people only remember disliking it.
  - motoford 15y ago
    I disagree that it was an accepted practice. I don't know of any technical person who didn't hate them from the very first time they saw one. Remember this was back during dial-up days and you had to wait forever for that crap to load. I can't tell you how many sites I left before ever seeing their content because when I saw flash loading I just switch back to my search engine and find the next link. Heck, I still do that. edit: I forgot to mention my even bigger gripe about the flash intros, and that was because I was basically being forced to sit through a commercial before I could interact with the company. It went (and goes) against the very basics of web use.
    - talmand 15y ago
      I would say the people defining an accepted practice are the people paying the bills. If the company wanted it, the technical person made it so they would get paid. I would admit it was probably the technical people who finally convinced the majority to abandon them. Plus the fact that over time they could see that the idea was failing them, much like you point out. But until that moment it was accepted practice among major websites. The fact you remember them so vividly in your dislike of them almost proves my point. But alas, I agree, they were a total waste of time. As I said, the people who pay the bills don't always listen to the people that they should listen to.