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Noodl is going open source

58 points by bradrn 3y ago

dizhn 3y ago
It says open "core" on the linked page.
- unixhero 3y ago
  Anything that says open core...
- bityard 3y ago
  Well, it's better than a lot of these "open source" product announcements that are actually not even close to open source. They just want to capture the marketing and SEO advantages of being labeled such. A lot of these have been popping up lately (especially around low/no-code and ML tools) and are actually under a proprietary or other non-open-source license. (Sometimes the founders even push back and say, "but it's on github, you can read all of it, that makes it open source according to my definition!") Open Core is a fine concept and can work well, my only ask is that companies which do it clearly explain which features/functionality are in each version so that I don't have to sift through marketing drivel to figure it out myself. Or start using the software and click on an interesting button only to be told, "oh snap, you gotta pay for that."
  - ssddanbrown 3y ago
    > Sometimes the founders even push back and say, "but it's on github, you can read all of it, that makes it open source according to my definition!" Last year I started to take an interest in these kinds of cases and created a repo to document such projects and their communications on the matter. Here's the repo if this is an area of intrigue for you too: https://github.com/ssddanbrown/Open-Source-Confusion-Cases https://github.com/ssddanbrown/Open-Source-Confusion-Cases
- EvanAnderson 3y ago
  They are using OSI approved licenses (Apache 2.0 and GPLv3) however.
- RobotToaster 3y ago
  To quote >Noodl will be available under open-source licenses, with additional features offered in the commercial version. So only a (small?) part of it will be open source, a number of (unspecified?) features will still be proprietary.
  - erictuvesson 3y ago
    There are only a select few features that will be closed source, there is a small text on the page explaining it. > features such as collaboration tools, version control, and optimizations for scaling applications. Open "core" might not have been the best wording, since you will be able to open/edit and deploy your apps with the open source version.
  - jameshaliburton 3y ago
    The open core will be fully functional - and if anyone is inclined to branch and build their own versions, everything needed will be there to get started.
kroken 3y ago
Not to be confused with the event planning tool https://nuudel.de/ https://nuudel.de/, which is using framadate, whose source code is here: https://framagit.org/framasoft/framadate/framadate https://framagit.org/framasoft/framadate/framadate
sn0wf1re 3y ago
Does anyone know how this compares to Windmill? https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill
- Reubend 3y ago
  Disclaimer: I haven't personally used either of them Windmill says it's focused on internal tooling, whereas Noodl showcases many external apps which were built using their platform.
- gervwyk 3y ago
  Shameless plug; Also check out Lowdefy [0], it’s open source and built on top of next.js https://github.com/lowdefy/lowdefy https://github.com/lowdefy/lowdefy
igetspam 3y ago
No Linux support. How very disappointing.
- igetspam 3y ago
  And the "delete account" functionality appears to not work. That's also very disappointing.
  - jameshaliburton 3y ago
    on it.
- erictuvesson 3y ago
  We had Linux support a long time ago, but there were not enough users to make it viable to keep up with performance and stability. Going open source, maybe that will make it easier to us to maintain a Linux version of Noodl. That would be amazing!
jameshaliburton 3y ago
Hey all - Noodl co-founder here. Just wanted to chime in about what will be open source vs commercial. Everything you need to build, deploy, maintain, and host applications will be free and fully open source. We will offer a commercial version with extra features, including collaboration tools, version control, and optimizations for scaling apps. We're taking a measured (aka, slightly slow) approach to the transition to ensure we get the governance model right and have time to include community members in the process.

58 points by bradrn 3y ago

dizhn 3y ago

It says open "core" on the linked page.

unixhero 3y ago
Anything that says open core...
bityard 3y ago
Well, it's better than a lot of these "open source" product announcements that are actually not even close to open source. They just want to capture the marketing and SEO advantages of being labeled such. A lot of these have been popping up lately (especially around low/no-code and ML tools) and are actually under a proprietary or other non-open-source license. (Sometimes the founders even push back and say, "but it's on github, you can read all of it, that makes it open source according to my definition!") Open Core is a fine concept and can work well, my only ask is that companies which do it clearly explain which features/functionality are in each version so that I don't have to sift through marketing drivel to figure it out myself. Or start using the software and click on an interesting button only to be told, "oh snap, you gotta pay for that."
- ssddanbrown 3y ago
  > Sometimes the founders even push back and say, "but it's on github, you can read all of it, that makes it open source according to my definition!" Last year I started to take an interest in these kinds of cases and created a repo to document such projects and their communications on the matter. Here's the repo if this is an area of intrigue for you too: https://github.com/ssddanbrown/Open-Source-Confusion-Cases https://github.com/ssddanbrown/Open-Source-Confusion-Cases
EvanAnderson 3y ago
They are using OSI approved licenses (Apache 2.0 and GPLv3) however.
RobotToaster 3y ago
To quote >Noodl will be available under open-source licenses, with additional features offered in the commercial version. So only a (small?) part of it will be open source, a number of (unspecified?) features will still be proprietary.
- erictuvesson 3y ago
  There are only a select few features that will be closed source, there is a small text on the page explaining it. > features such as collaboration tools, version control, and optimizations for scaling applications. Open "core" might not have been the best wording, since you will be able to open/edit and deploy your apps with the open source version.
- jameshaliburton 3y ago
  The open core will be fully functional - and if anyone is inclined to branch and build their own versions, everything needed will be there to get started.

kroken 3y ago

Not to be confused with the event planning tool https://nuudel.de/ https://nuudel.de/, which is using framadate, whose source code is here: https://framagit.org/framasoft/framadate/framadate https://framagit.org/framasoft/framadate/framadate

sn0wf1re 3y ago

Does anyone know how this compares to Windmill? https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill

Reubend 3y ago
Disclaimer: I haven't personally used either of them Windmill says it's focused on internal tooling, whereas Noodl showcases many external apps which were built using their platform.
gervwyk 3y ago
Shameless plug; Also check out Lowdefy [0], it’s open source and built on top of next.js https://github.com/lowdefy/lowdefy https://github.com/lowdefy/lowdefy

igetspam 3y ago

No Linux support. How very disappointing.

igetspam 3y ago
And the "delete account" functionality appears to not work. That's also very disappointing.
- jameshaliburton 3y ago
  on it.
erictuvesson 3y ago
We had Linux support a long time ago, but there were not enough users to make it viable to keep up with performance and stability. Going open source, maybe that will make it easier to us to maintain a Linux version of Noodl. That would be amazing!

jameshaliburton 3y ago

Hey all - Noodl co-founder here. Just wanted to chime in about what will be open source vs commercial. Everything you need to build, deploy, maintain, and host applications will be free and fully open source. We will offer a commercial version with extra features, including collaboration tools, version control, and optimizations for scaling apps. We're taking a measured (aka, slightly slow) approach to the transition to ensure we get the governance model right and have time to include community members in the process.