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Its terrifying to see two of the main reasons are from people who do not know how to adjust their lock times & sleep mode on Windows / iOS. We're going to be te

Its terrifying to see two of the main reasons are from people who do not know how to adjust their lock times & sleep mode on Windows / iOS. We're going to be teaching kids how to use a computer the same way we taught the elderly in the early 00's.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago
Going? This is already a thing; a lot of kids aren't tech savvy at all, except when it comes to hacking Minecraft or running a VPN on their phones to try and evade their home internet's content filters. Anyway, it reminds me of the very popular Caffeine app for MacOS, which prevents the device from going to sleep. Used by a lot of developers (at the time) as well, so it's not just kids.
- shawnz 3y ago
  Microsoft has an "Awake" module in their PowerToys app which is inspired by Caffeine
codq 3y ago
I do have to say, since I’ve been to macOS Ventura, and having to deal with the new Settings UI, I cannot for the life of me remember exactly how to find sleep settings. I have to desperately hunt for it every time. Is it under battery? Is it under screensaver? Is it under general? I honestly can’t even tell you.
- chillstreem 3y ago
  your MacOS doesn't come with a search box in the settings window?
graypegg 3y ago
I’m making an absurdly large generalization here, but I’m feeling like kids are having less curiosity for specifically the devices they own. As things get more integrated into their lives, it’s become a lot of more a utilitarian tool, rather than something worth digging into to see how it does those things. Not to say that setting a single screen lock time setting is the pinnacle of curiosity, but it’s reflection of the banal utilitarian way they look at devices. “It does what it does”
wingerlang 3y ago
I know my way around my devices and I still open 24 hour timers all the time. It's 100% reliable and a temporary solution. I can't really say the same for various 'caffeinate' programs I've tried over the years.
michaelt 3y ago
> people who do not know how to adjust their lock times I've seen developers at FAANG companies using the background video trick - because corporate managed devices came with an unmodifiable lock/sleep time. And if school-issued laptops were even more locked down, with even more boneheaded defaults - that would hardly surprise me.
- netruk44 3y ago
  I was working at Microsoft when Windows Phones were a thing. They gave everyone on the team a very cheap phone with the expectation that we were to dogfood the latest phone OS on it. They tracked our usage hours to make sure we were using them. One of my teammates just put on (IIRC) a 72 hour long black screen video and reset the video back to the beginning when he left in the evenings. It needed to be 72 hours long because he didn't want to come in on the weekends to reset it.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

Going? This is already a thing; a lot of kids aren't tech savvy at all, except when it comes to hacking Minecraft or running a VPN on their phones to try and evade their home internet's content filters. Anyway, it reminds me of the very popular Caffeine app for MacOS, which prevents the device from going to sleep. Used by a lot of developers (at the time) as well, so it's not just kids.

shawnz 3y ago
Microsoft has an "Awake" module in their PowerToys app which is inspired by Caffeine

codq 3y ago

I do have to say, since I’ve been to macOS Ventura, and having to deal with the new Settings UI, I cannot for the life of me remember exactly how to find sleep settings. I have to desperately hunt for it every time. Is it under battery? Is it under screensaver? Is it under general? I honestly can’t even tell you.

chillstreem 3y ago
your MacOS doesn't come with a search box in the settings window?

graypegg 3y ago

I’m making an absurdly large generalization here, but I’m feeling like kids are having less curiosity for specifically the devices they own. As things get more integrated into their lives, it’s become a lot of more a utilitarian tool, rather than something worth digging into to see how it does those things. Not to say that setting a single screen lock time setting is the pinnacle of curiosity, but it’s reflection of the banal utilitarian way they look at devices. “It does what it does”

wingerlang 3y ago

I know my way around my devices and I still open 24 hour timers all the time. It's 100% reliable and a temporary solution. I can't really say the same for various 'caffeinate' programs I've tried over the years.

michaelt 3y ago

> people who do not know how to adjust their lock times I've seen developers at FAANG companies using the background video trick - because corporate managed devices came with an unmodifiable lock/sleep time. And if school-issued laptops were even more locked down, with even more boneheaded defaults - that would hardly surprise me.

netruk44 3y ago
I was working at Microsoft when Windows Phones were a thing. They gave everyone on the team a very cheap phone with the expectation that we were to dogfood the latest phone OS on it. They tracked our usage hours to make sure we were using them. One of my teammates just put on (IIRC) a 72 hour long black screen video and reset the video back to the beginning when he left in the evenings. It needed to be 72 hours long because he didn't want to come in on the weekends to reset it.