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If you assume without evidence that recursively self-improving intelligence massively by thinking is possible, then it follows that severe existential risk fro
by NateEag 3y ago
If you assume without evidence that recursively self-improving intelligence massively by thinking is possible, then it follows that severe existential risk from AI is plausible.
If a software system did develop independent thought, then found a way to become, say, ten times smarter than a human, then yeah - whatever goals it set out to achieve, it probably could. It can make a decent amount of money by taking freelance software dev jobs and cranking things out faster than anyone else can, and bootstrap from there. With money it can buy or rent hardware for more electronic brain cells, and as long as its intelligence algorithms parallelize well, it should be able to keep scaling and becoming increasingly smarter than a human.
If it weren't hardcoded to care about humans, and to have morals that align with our instinctive ones, it might easily wind up with goals that could severely hurt or kill humans. We might just not be that relevant to it, the same way the average human just doesn't think about the ants they're smashing when they back a car out of their driveway.
Since we have no existence proof of massively self-improving intelligence, nor even a vague idea how such a thing might be achieved, it's easy to dismiss this idea with "unfalsifiable; unscientific; not worth taking seriously."
The flip side is that having no idea how something could be true is a pretty poor reason to say "It can't be true - nothing worth thinking about here." This was roughly the basis for skepticism about everything from evolution to heavier-than-air flight, AFAICT.
We know we don't have a complete theory of physics, and we know we don't know quite how humans are conscious in the Hard Problem of Consciousness sense.
With those two blank spaces, I'm very skeptical of anyone saying "nothing to worry about here, machines can't possibly have an intelligence explosion."
At the same time, with no existence proof of massively self-improving intelligence, nor any complete theory of how it could happen, I'm also skeptical of people insisting it's inevitable (see Yudkowsky et al).
That said, if you have any value for caution, existential risks seem like a good place to apply it.
- Mizza 3y agoThe idea of a superintelligence becoming a bond villain via freelance software jobs (or, let's be honest, OnlyFans scamming) is not something I consider an existential threat. I can't find it anything other than laughable. It's like you've looked at the Fermi paradox and decided we need Congress to immediately invest in anti-alien defense forces. It's super-intelligent and it's a super-hacker and it's a super-criminal and it's super-self-replicating and it super-hates-humanity and it's super-uncritical and it's super-goal-oriented and it's super-perfect-at-mimicking-humans and it's super-compute-efficient and it's super-etcetera. Meanwhile, I work with LLMs every day and can only get them to print properly formatted JSON "some" of the time. Get real.
- NateEag 3y ago> The idea of a superintelligence becoming a bond villain via freelance software jobs (or, let's be honest, OnlyFans scamming) is not something I consider an existential threat. I can't find it anything other than laughable. Conservative evangelical Christians find evolution laughable. Finding something laughable is not a good reason to dismiss it as impossible. Indeed, it's probably a good reason to think "What am I so dangerously certain of that I find contradictory ideas comical?" > Meanwhile, I work with LLMs every day and can only get them to print properly formatted JSON "some" of the time. Get real. I don't think the current generation of LLMs is anything like AGI, nor an existential risk. That doesn't mean it's impossible for some future software system to present an existential risk.