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That's sort of a random comment. Email came from a need and turned into global digital identify. Web forums became a place for internet conversations. Any itera

by asim 3y ago

That's sort of a random comment. Email came from a need and turned into global digital identify. Web forums became a place for internet conversations. Any iterations we made were for public real time communication and that served us well for a time but we need something that takes us back to private, async comms and using email as identity seems pretty key for those who have it. Without it, how are you governing invites and identity?

eimrine 3y ago
> how are you governing invites news.ycombinator.com/register?invite=mycoolusername > identity I would like to participate in identity-less places kind of good old IRC or web forums like HN, not like Discord or Facebook. Let's be honest, the only reason why the webmaster requires the users to provide him any bits of identity (working email, phone number, number of working credit/debet card) are just webmaster's try to squeeze some income from "dumb fucks" the users. This is uneven because chatting in general does not require participants and/or listeners to provide any data to anybody. If I need to talk to someone or limited group of people privately I would use Jabber+OTR or Tox; if I need to talk to bigger audience I would like to use a public weblog; if I have an urge to discuss something within some living community I would prefer that kind of communities which do not require the bits of identity I have mentioned (working email, phone number, number of working credit/debet card). > but we need something that takes us back to private, async comms and using email as identity seems pretty key for those who have it. I do not agree with any statement packed into this words (but I am open to discuss it). Especially I do not agree with "back" word of the quote, there were no both private and async communities anytime back. > Email came from a need and turned into global digital identify. Email came from a need to connect someone's computer to the next door guy's one and eventually it has been forced to become some kind of security theater.

by asim 3y ago

eimrine 3y ago

> how are you governing invites news.ycombinator.com/register?invite=mycoolusername > identity I would like to participate in identity-less places kind of good old IRC or web forums like HN, not like Discord or Facebook. Let's be honest, the only reason why the webmaster requires the users to provide him any bits of identity (working email, phone number, number of working credit/debet card) are just webmaster's try to squeeze some income from "dumb fucks" the users. This is uneven because chatting in general does not require participants and/or listeners to provide any data to anybody. If I need to talk to someone or limited group of people privately I would use Jabber+OTR or Tox; if I need to talk to bigger audience I would like to use a public weblog; if I have an urge to discuss something within some living community I would prefer that kind of communities which do not require the bits of identity I have mentioned (working email, phone number, number of working credit/debet card). > but we need something that takes us back to private, async comms and using email as identity seems pretty key for those who have it. I do not agree with any statement packed into this words (but I am open to discuss it). Especially I do not agree with "back" word of the quote, there were no both private and async communities anytime back. > Email came from a need and turned into global digital identify. Email came from a need to connect someone's computer to the next door guy's one and eventually it has been forced to become some kind of security theater.