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It’s old and not very prevalent. The equivalent in western culture is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_chivalry https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of

It’s old and not very prevalent. The equivalent in western culture is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_chivalry https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_chivalry which is to say that it is seen with rosy-colored glasses.

bnjms 3y ago
I think you are mistaken. While people may no longer explicitly speak about it I see in Korean manhwa that the idea of using gifts to obligate a wealthy persons lessers, or being shrewed considering who to accept favors from one’s betters to avoid owing obligations to, is a common theme and understanding it is an automatic assumption for readers. This seems to support that there remains an implied cultural norm. From the arrticle it sounds like the same thing you’d see within a western church but there it extends more weakly outside the family and ends outside the church.
- escapedmoose 3y ago
  You can also read Western comics about cowboys dueling in shootouts, but that’s not a legitimate or relevant aspect of American culture. Be careful about assumptions drawn from manhwa
  - bnjms 3y ago
    Yes it is relevant. While it’s true that no cultural output can say anything about a culture. Taking many examples can give some insight. I referenced one I believe is exemplary. The example of western comics is weak since I don’t know there is much of a broad genre of comics in the western style. So comparing to the old western films is more direct to your point and I would infer some small things. As an example, there is an implied belief that killing is okay if it’s in defense of the powerless and vulnerable. And any number of people can be killed in service to protecting the weak. Any way I’m only observing an implied cultural awareness of the hierarchy described in the article is assumed. Also I suggest comparison to chivalry is poor and a better comparison is to biblical family hierarchy which is still relevant even if popularly ridiculed.

bnjms 3y ago

I think you are mistaken. While people may no longer explicitly speak about it I see in Korean manhwa that the idea of using gifts to obligate a wealthy persons lessers, or being shrewed considering who to accept favors from one’s betters to avoid owing obligations to, is a common theme and understanding it is an automatic assumption for readers. This seems to support that there remains an implied cultural norm. From the arrticle it sounds like the same thing you’d see within a western church but there it extends more weakly outside the family and ends outside the church.

escapedmoose 3y ago
You can also read Western comics about cowboys dueling in shootouts, but that’s not a legitimate or relevant aspect of American culture. Be careful about assumptions drawn from manhwa
- bnjms 3y ago
  Yes it is relevant. While it’s true that no cultural output can say anything about a culture. Taking many examples can give some insight. I referenced one I believe is exemplary. The example of western comics is weak since I don’t know there is much of a broad genre of comics in the western style. So comparing to the old western films is more direct to your point and I would infer some small things. As an example, there is an implied belief that killing is okay if it’s in defense of the powerless and vulnerable. And any number of people can be killed in service to protecting the weak. Any way I’m only observing an implied cultural awareness of the hierarchy described in the article is assumed. Also I suggest comparison to chivalry is poor and a better comparison is to biblical family hierarchy which is still relevant even if popularly ridiculed.