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I basically want a MacBook equivalent that runs Linux as a first class OS Which means: great display, battery life, keyboard, light and thin (for couch use), a
by barbariangrunge 3y ago
I basically want a MacBook equivalent that runs Linux as a first class OS
Which means: great display, battery life, keyboard, light and thin (for couch use), and then to be available to try before I buy in some form. Eg, visiting a store to try the display/keyboard. Or else, free returns.
(nice trackpads are traps: MacOS makes you rely on their great trackpad, but it makes you more prone to RSI in the long run to use a trackpad all the time. Better to use gnome with its great keyboard shortcuts)
I wish system76 would put better displays in their machines. I hope virgo goes with 1440p or higher. This whole in-house laptop project is very encouraging, I cna't wait to see what they're building in 10 years
- gigatexal 3y agoI’m hoping the Asahi folks get us there. Which is why I help support their efforts with a monthly donation.
- 7e 3y agoYou won’t get it. Apple makes killer hardware and pretty decent integrated software. Great hardware/software integration is a lot of work and OSS devs just aren’t up to the task.
- jacooper 3y agoHonestly software is the last thing i will buy a Mac for, macOS is garbage, I would rather use windows.
- barbariangrunge 3y agoHow so? My favourite desktop environment is gnome, because I almost never need to touch a mouse with it, and it’s nice and minimal (although you need to add a few extensions)
- jacooper 3y agoI love gnome too, but its way better than macOS, its way more advanced, doesn't lack basic features(que KDE crowd...) and extensions fill any gaps. While macOS feels dated, has absolute garbage support for anything Linux releated and awful keyboard layout(just use Ctrl already).
- tapoxi 3y agoGNOME still, to this day, doesn't handle fractional scaling properly. And don't get me started on its inability to handle something as simple as tray icons and instead go "Whoopsie! Something is running in the background!" It's eternally 70% complete. The lack of polish drives me nuts.
- happymellon 3y agoReally basic features are missing on MacOS. Okay so I can key shortcuts to move between virtual desktops, but how do I then move a window to a different desktop? I have to install 3rd party tools, such as Amethyst. The papercuts with the Mac workflow are atrocious.
- cultofmetatron 3y agoI'm waiting for my framework laptop specifically for this. easy to swap parts, ryzen and they do support linux. in my book, its the best bet for a premium linux laptop as long as you're not doing heavy ML. (at least not till the 15" version is out)
- ranguna 3y agoWhat's the battery like?
- cultofmetatron 3y agoI heard the first gen had bad power drain issues but the new 13th gen intels are drastically better. The new ryzen has the option of a 60 wh battery. I doubt its as good as a MBP but its on par with other PCs
- ranguna 3y agoWhat is "on par" to you? 7 hours? 10,14?
- RomanPushkin 3y agoYou forget software. I have great 3-rd party display for my laptop, but with Linux it's often software that doesn't support that. Text looks too small, often times there is no scaling possible. Because of that I use Windows + WSL
- orangepurple 3y agoYou need to use KDE to the max if you want a polished graphical experience on Linux. You can have it all with KDE.
- RomanPushkin 3y agoUnless you restart your computer and want to use some boot loader for picking up partition. I mean it all sounds cool, but rough edges are everywhere. There is no such thing as "polished graphical experience on Linux".
- happymellon 3y agoDo you have a slightly more concrete example? What sort of resolution is the external display, and do you have (just one would be fine) example of an app that messes up? It's going to be the only way to fix this.
- nikau 3y agoLenovo carbon x1 optioned with oled display.
- jumpCastle 3y agoIs Linux battery life good?
- wooque 3y agoYou will never get this. Small companies like System76/Framework don't have even 1% of Apple budget, so hardware and hardware/software integration will never be as good as the MacBook.