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There's been a few stories over the years that show Tesla is a bit "laissez faire" with their security and data protection. A recap from my own memory: 1. Engi
by yellow_lead 3y ago
There's been a few stories over the years that show Tesla is a bit "laissez faire" with their security and data protection. A recap from my own memory:
1. Engineer sharing how they SSH into moving cars in order to apply updates and troubleshoot (several years back)
2. Recent leaks of customer recordings.
The whole autopilot situation is concerning too.
- waihtis 3y agoThe good old Ford Pinto playbook
- kramerger 3y agoI guess Elon will handle this by tweeting something really crazy to shift focus from the real problem, and as usual we will fall for it. On the other hand, he is running out of crazy things to say. The only remaining thing I can think of is he coming out in support for cannibalism
- zeristor 3y agoIf things get tight in his Martian kingdom they may well have to invent the Donner Pass kebab.
- tiffanyg 3y agoAh yes, reminds me of one reason I don't mind waiting so much for a table these days. Just list the family name as "Donner" - hearing the maître d' call out "Donner, party of 4, your table's ready" really makes up for the wait! ;)
- capableweb 3y agoCannibalism is crazy now? Think of all the advantages: - Cannibalism is a way to maximize the use of available resources - If regulated in a certain way, cannibalism could serve as a form of population control - With a balanced diet and careful preparation, human meat could be a source of protein and other nutrients - Cannibalism could be seen as a means of waste reduction. Instead of bodies taking up space in graveyards or being cremated, they're consumed - Cannibalism could be used as a symbol of dominance or power. Consuming another person might be a demonstration of absolute control or superiority. Of course, this is all fictional, and I just thought it would be fun to try to think positively about a somewhat controversial topic. But still...
- tiffanyg 3y agoWhat "a humility-rich proposal" ;)
- devonkim 3y agoNot exactly on brand for him to be modest though, so I don’t imagine it would be suggested except maybe as an April Fool’s Day joke
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- WesolyKubeczek 3y agoThere is one small hole in the whole thing called “prion diseases”, though…
- falcolas 3y agoThey did cover that, under the “Population Control” bullet point.
- xyst 3y agoBut what about the buzzards? If we all begin to purge each other and eat one another, then the poor buzzards will starve. Lol
- cubefox 3y agoI remember meeting a girl studying anthropology. She talked about her taking a course on "man eaters". Primitive tribes who occasionally eat people. (Of course it's entirely unacceptable to say "primitive" or even "tribe" in anthropology!) Instead of condemning the practice as morally abhorrent, as they often do, e.g. for persecution of homosexuality, they just talked about why they (the man eaters) do it, what type of spiritual gains they hope to achieve with it, etc, very non-judgmental. On other matters anthropologists are some of the most judgmental people in academia. The absurdity of the double standard was hard to express. Some kind of inconsistent moral relativism.
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- dang 3y agoPlease let's not go into boring celebrity wars. Especially not this boring celebrity war. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- dang 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870
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- markus_zhang 3y agoThat ssh into moving cars is really scary. I guess an engineer can do a lot in that session if he wants.
- chaxor 3y agoAt least they're using ssh and not some home rolled garbage. If ssh uses keys and not small passwords, it's one of the most secure methods around to get access to a machine. Unfortunately far too many companies are just rolling their own extremely flimsy and insecure VPN programs these days.
- hnthrowaway8860 3y agoYou are missing the point. Their engineers have the ability to ssh into your car. While you arr going 85mph on the freeway. That's by itself is scary af.
- MarcoZavala 3y ago[dead]
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- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoI get anxiety updating my bios at the best of times, I can't even imagine at speed.
- bakuninsbart 3y agoI can only speak for German car companies, but their tech is incredibly secure, and multiple teams work on just making sure it is close to impossible to get access to anything digitally controlled in a car. The thing with cars is that malicious actors usually can get physical access to it, which makes it an order of magnitude more difficult to secure. This is one of the main reasons car computers often seem so clunky.
- tiffanyg 3y agoMy favorite was the alleged sighting of "Wet Nellie" (modified Lotus from Bond movie that Musk bought years ago) in video footage sent to Tesla's servers by one of their cars - likely, when it was parked. They have been quite lax in multiple ways at times with various practices. Definitely speaks to company culture that not only did all sorts of images & video get recorded on private property and sent to Tesla (at highly questionable times given the claimed reasons for the sending of images / video), these materials were then casually handled up and down the chain. Significant disregard to any real access control, training, rules, etc. - employees sharing, commenting, and making memes off of everything. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens... (Not the only article or set of sources, of course. I'd certainly still classify this as alleged, but, have encountered enough such reports and heard enough stories from various people to consider this likely largely accurate. My opinion, though.)
- yellow_lead 3y agoYep, it's indicative of the culture for sure. If this sort of thing is still happening years after the whole "SSH into moving cars" thing, I can't expect it to improve.
- sidibe 3y agoConcerning, I'm sure Elon will look into it.