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I've never played craps. My understanding is the rules are normally enforced by a dealer at the table. Do you know if these electronic tables have the rules tha

I've never played craps. My understanding is the rules are normally enforced by a dealer at the table. Do you know if these electronic tables have the rules that aren't enforced in the game's code displayed on them or something?

pclmulqdq 3y ago
You don't magically get to break the rules of soccer just because the ref isn't watching at the time. The dice are physical and the game is exactly the same as craps, but everything else about the table (ie betting) is electronic. Clearly, the game's code doesn't enforce the rules about dice rolls.
- Miner49er 3y ago
  > You don't magically get to break the rules of soccer just because the ref isn't watching at the time. Well that's actually a great analogy, because you kind of can, can't you? And in professional sports there's tons of money on the line, but if a player does something against the rules and isn't punished for it at the moment they aren't charged with fraud.
  - pclmulqdq 3y ago
    Players routinely get fined after the fact by these organizations for rule-breaking during the game, even when it gets past a referee. Those rules are not legislated, but defined in a civil contract. If they were legislated like the rules of gambling gmes, it would be a crime.
    - kelnos 3y ago
      > If they were legislated like the rules of gambling gmes, it would be a crime. And that's the issue, really: making rule-breaking in gambling a criminal offense is ridiculous. Outright theft, sure; criminalize that all day long. But if the dealer gives you chips after you do something in-game that breaks the rules, that's on the casino for not training their dealers better. (Or in the case of electronic craps, for not writing their software better.)
- kelnos 3y ago
  > You don't magically get to break the rules of soccer just because the ref isn't watching at the time. As a former (amateur-league) soccer ref, yes, you absolutely do. I certainly missed a player doing something against the rules from time to time, and yeah, that means they absolutely "got to break the rules". Yes, nowadays there's video analysis after the fact for pro games, and people do get fined for doing egregious things. But if, say, the ref misses a handball, and there's either no video evidence, or the evidence is inconclusive, then you can totally get away with it. Meanwhile, a handball won't get you charged with a crime if you're caught after the fact, even if that handball changed the result of the game. That'd be ridiculous.

pclmulqdq 3y ago

You don't magically get to break the rules of soccer just because the ref isn't watching at the time. The dice are physical and the game is exactly the same as craps, but everything else about the table (ie betting) is electronic. Clearly, the game's code doesn't enforce the rules about dice rolls.

Miner49er 3y ago
> You don't magically get to break the rules of soccer just because the ref isn't watching at the time. Well that's actually a great analogy, because you kind of can, can't you? And in professional sports there's tons of money on the line, but if a player does something against the rules and isn't punished for it at the moment they aren't charged with fraud.
- pclmulqdq 3y ago
  Players routinely get fined after the fact by these organizations for rule-breaking during the game, even when it gets past a referee. Those rules are not legislated, but defined in a civil contract. If they were legislated like the rules of gambling gmes, it would be a crime.
  - kelnos 3y ago
    > If they were legislated like the rules of gambling gmes, it would be a crime. And that's the issue, really: making rule-breaking in gambling a criminal offense is ridiculous. Outright theft, sure; criminalize that all day long. But if the dealer gives you chips after you do something in-game that breaks the rules, that's on the casino for not training their dealers better. (Or in the case of electronic craps, for not writing their software better.)
kelnos 3y ago
> You don't magically get to break the rules of soccer just because the ref isn't watching at the time. As a former (amateur-league) soccer ref, yes, you absolutely do. I certainly missed a player doing something against the rules from time to time, and yeah, that means they absolutely "got to break the rules". Yes, nowadays there's video analysis after the fact for pro games, and people do get fined for doing egregious things. But if, say, the ref misses a handball, and there's either no video evidence, or the evidence is inconclusive, then you can totally get away with it. Meanwhile, a handball won't get you charged with a crime if you're caught after the fact, even if that handball changed the result of the game. That'd be ridiculous.