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Find something you agree upon. You could appeal to her energy saving mindset. For example mention how much power an always on computer is drawing and say that

by chippy 3y ago

Find something you agree upon. You could appeal to her energy saving mindset. For example mention how much power an always on computer is drawing and say that videos use CPU which ramps up the wattage and usage. Bright monitors use more energy than dim ones etc. Sleep mode vs always on. If you want to go even further you could mention the carbon footprint of youtube and internet servers but this is pushing it a bit.

actionfromafar 3y ago
Not going to work
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ok_dad 3y ago
Sometimes we need to accept insanity in our friends and partners. My wife does stuff that I used to hate but now I just accept that’s how she does that particular thing. As a society I think we care too much about people doing certain things the right way.
- test1235 3y ago
  a good example of this is having a massive number (50+) of tabs open in your browser ... I think that's completely unusable, but I've worked with other techies who do this, and also seems to be a common thing here on HN. Another example is having tons of stuff all over your desktop.
  - jholman 3y ago
    Ahaha, you think 50 is massive? I have over 20 browser windows open, and several of those windows have literally hundreds of tabs. At various times when I've done an actual census (usually before my every-few-years purge) I've had 700 to 1500 tabs. I'm not saying you should like it or emulate me or whatever, but I can't understand what you could possibly be thinking when you say it's "unusable". Of course, many people use browsers that can't handle it. That would make it literally unusable.
elif 3y ago
Trying to come up with post-facto explanations which arent your true reasoning in order to manipulate your partner's behavior is a huge red flag. If you follow this sort of advice in your own relationship it is very likely going noticed and dissolving trust in your relationship.
- k0k0r0 3y ago
  Using a different then my own true reasoning is completely normal, and everybody does this. One adjust your reasing to the understanding of the other person for example. Moreover, there is like a miles wide gab between rhetoric and manipulation.
  - elif 3y ago
    utilizing deceit to change someone's behavior for your own personal reasons is, by definition, manipulation. communicating your true feelings and intentions is the only way to grow trust. what you are describing is needlessly eroding trust.
    - shkkmo 3y ago
      It is perfectly fine to present alternative reasonings to convince someone of something as long as you don't pretend that reasoning is the basis of your own position.
trvz 3y ago
I've just tested letting a Youtube video play on my M2 Macbook Air. At 25% screen brightness, it uses around 4 Watt. At 50%, around 6 Watt. At 100%, around 11 Watt. The person in question is unlikely to have a modern computer, but letting a video play all the time could technically still be using less power than the light.
- gibspaulding 3y ago
  That's insane to think about. Extrapolating down to 0% brightness means the actual compute required to manage the network connection and decrypt and render the video, plus anything the OS is doing in the background happens in maybe 2 watts?! With 2 watts you could power a fairly dim LED lightbulb or perform the equivalent of thousands(?) of man hours of hand computations. https://xkcd.com/676/ https://xkcd.com/676/
  - trvz 3y ago
    The computer idles at 3.5 Watt. A 1440p video is played at 4.0-4.5 Watt at 0% internal screen brightness. The same video at 4k uses 4.5-5.0 Watt. And at 8k, it's 15-17 Watt. The xkcd is apt, as usual. The last time I felt with Intel as I feel with Apple since the M1 was with Haswell.

by chippy 3y ago

actionfromafar 3y ago

Not going to work

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ok_dad 3y ago

Sometimes we need to accept insanity in our friends and partners. My wife does stuff that I used to hate but now I just accept that’s how she does that particular thing. As a society I think we care too much about people doing certain things the right way.

test1235 3y ago
a good example of this is having a massive number (50+) of tabs open in your browser ... I think that's completely unusable, but I've worked with other techies who do this, and also seems to be a common thing here on HN. Another example is having tons of stuff all over your desktop.
- jholman 3y ago
  Ahaha, you think 50 is massive? I have over 20 browser windows open, and several of those windows have literally hundreds of tabs. At various times when I've done an actual census (usually before my every-few-years purge) I've had 700 to 1500 tabs. I'm not saying you should like it or emulate me or whatever, but I can't understand what you could possibly be thinking when you say it's "unusable". Of course, many people use browsers that can't handle it. That would make it literally unusable.

elif 3y ago

Trying to come up with post-facto explanations which arent your true reasoning in order to manipulate your partner's behavior is a huge red flag. If you follow this sort of advice in your own relationship it is very likely going noticed and dissolving trust in your relationship.

k0k0r0 3y ago
Using a different then my own true reasoning is completely normal, and everybody does this. One adjust your reasing to the understanding of the other person for example. Moreover, there is like a miles wide gab between rhetoric and manipulation.
- elif 3y ago
  utilizing deceit to change someone's behavior for your own personal reasons is, by definition, manipulation. communicating your true feelings and intentions is the only way to grow trust. what you are describing is needlessly eroding trust.
  - shkkmo 3y ago
    It is perfectly fine to present alternative reasonings to convince someone of something as long as you don't pretend that reasoning is the basis of your own position.

trvz 3y ago

I've just tested letting a Youtube video play on my M2 Macbook Air. At 25% screen brightness, it uses around 4 Watt. At 50%, around 6 Watt. At 100%, around 11 Watt. The person in question is unlikely to have a modern computer, but letting a video play all the time could technically still be using less power than the light.

gibspaulding 3y ago
That's insane to think about. Extrapolating down to 0% brightness means the actual compute required to manage the network connection and decrypt and render the video, plus anything the OS is doing in the background happens in maybe 2 watts?! With 2 watts you could power a fairly dim LED lightbulb or perform the equivalent of thousands(?) of man hours of hand computations. https://xkcd.com/676/ https://xkcd.com/676/
- trvz 3y ago
  The computer idles at 3.5 Watt. A 1440p video is played at 4.0-4.5 Watt at 0% internal screen brightness. The same video at 4k uses 4.5-5.0 Watt. And at 8k, it's 15-17 Watt. The xkcd is apt, as usual. The last time I felt with Intel as I feel with Apple since the M1 was with Haswell.