> On Kubernetes even? While I agree with the spirit of your post, I think k8s is a great counterexample. Of course there is a ton of things that is vendor depe

> On Kubernetes even? While I agree with the spirit of your post, I think k8s is a great counterexample. Of course there is a ton of things that is vendor dependent, and you can be sure each vendor will try to exploit that, but overall it's the closest thing to avoiding vendor lock-in that we have now. Maybe 2 years ago I'd hesitate to say that as k8s was just a part of the equation but now that I've been successfully running a Postgres operator without any problems for a couple of months I feel it finally feels like a more complete solution that you can deploy in any environment in a way that is an order of magnitude (or two) faster than traditional migration from one environment to another. Specifically, it lets you avoid many services that are called "cloud-native" which basically means "harder to migrate from".