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I think many coaches already do this, however their predictive results are written on paper and carried around in their binders by assistants. Every coach has a

I think many coaches already do this, however their predictive results are written on paper and carried around in their binders by assistants. Every coach has a list of scenarios when going for a 2pt convert is advisable, when going for 4th down is advisable, as well as dividing plays up according to yardage & scenario. Additionally, the amount of film that is analyzed prior to each game, as well as the amount of free-agency these days means players are so familiar with one another and opposing team's play books, that the technology already exists - in their brains. Maybe it's the football purist in me, but I really don't think iPads would add much. In the NHL, the Maple Leafs have an iPad or two on the bench during the game (the NHL has no restrictions) and they stink.

pwthornton 15y ago
Yes, this is accurate. The coaches and stats guys do this before the games and they all know what they want to run in given situations and what they believe the other team will do. It's just written down on paper. Trust me, NFL teams have stats and programmers on board.
- ericelias 15y ago
  Yes, they have stats and applications to apply some of the variables prior to the game. Even at the Division 3 level we had binders with probabilities based on formations. This was a fun brainstorm to see how far the technology could be applied.
WarDekar 15y ago
You would think they would do this, but they certainly don't do a good job of it considering almost no coach in the NFL gets it right consistently outside of Belichick. Presumably most of them are still using old 4th down and 2 point conversion charts from decades ago, either that or their risk-aversion is just so high that they're afraid to make the obviously statistically correct call.
- adharmad 15y ago
  That's one of the surprises in NFL. If you read Gregg Easterbrook (Tuesday morning quarterback on espn), he frequently points out stastically obvious plays that coaches should have called, but they dont! It is hard to believe that NFL head coaches with their large entourage of assistant coaches do not have the same information that a writer on espn has! The NFL actually boils down to players making plays. There is no rocket science involved (although coaches are regularly hailed as "geniuses"). If the playbook is made too complicated, players will have a hard time learning it. The trick (in my opinion) is to have your players accurately anticipate the opposition's moves. Belichick's playbook is not the most complex, but it definitely geared towards exploiting his opposition's weaknesses, and simple enough to be understood/implemented by the players on field.
  - Anechoic 15y ago
    It is hard to believe that NFL head coaches with their large entourage of assistant coaches do not have the same information that a writer on espn has! It's not that the coaches don't have the info, it's that no play is 100% effective and coaches have to shoulder the blame if thet make a perceived "risky" call (even if it's the statisyicly best play) and it fails. Remember the decision to go for it when the Pats were facing fourth and 2 on the Colt's 28 yard line in '09? It was statistically the best option, but since they didn't convert, Belichick's been hammered for that decision ever since. If a coach on the bubble makes that call and the team doesn't convert, he's probably gone the next year. As TMQ points out, it's much safer for the coach to punt in that situation, and if the team looses it will be the players who get the blame.
    - adharmad 15y ago
      Yep I remember the 4th and 2 against Colts. However, that decision was more of a hit-or-miss. Think of the countless times a team has the ball with 2-3 mins to go. Three incomplete passes and a punt. The other team scores in the last 2 mins and wins. Except, that it was 3 rushes, it would have taken enough time off the clock to keep the ball (if they get the first down) and keep the other team from getting the ball.
int3rnaut 15y ago
I've noticed a few teams in the NHL use iPads on the bench-- besides tracking ice time, and perhaps monitoring heart rate (I think the Sabres are the only ones who monitor this during games so far) what are some of the more obvious benefits of having a device at hand that isn't already accomplished from the pressbox and relayed down to the Assistant coaches?
- waterside81 15y ago
  They're recording the game and are able to tap into that recording. This way, they can show players replays of certain plays. Also, I believe they have quick access to stats like faceoffs won by certain players.

pwthornton 15y ago

Yes, this is accurate. The coaches and stats guys do this before the games and they all know what they want to run in given situations and what they believe the other team will do. It's just written down on paper. Trust me, NFL teams have stats and programmers on board.

ericelias 15y ago
Yes, they have stats and applications to apply some of the variables prior to the game. Even at the Division 3 level we had binders with probabilities based on formations. This was a fun brainstorm to see how far the technology could be applied.

WarDekar 15y ago

You would think they would do this, but they certainly don't do a good job of it considering almost no coach in the NFL gets it right consistently outside of Belichick. Presumably most of them are still using old 4th down and 2 point conversion charts from decades ago, either that or their risk-aversion is just so high that they're afraid to make the obviously statistically correct call.

adharmad 15y ago
That's one of the surprises in NFL. If you read Gregg Easterbrook (Tuesday morning quarterback on espn), he frequently points out stastically obvious plays that coaches should have called, but they dont! It is hard to believe that NFL head coaches with their large entourage of assistant coaches do not have the same information that a writer on espn has! The NFL actually boils down to players making plays. There is no rocket science involved (although coaches are regularly hailed as "geniuses"). If the playbook is made too complicated, players will have a hard time learning it. The trick (in my opinion) is to have your players accurately anticipate the opposition's moves. Belichick's playbook is not the most complex, but it definitely geared towards exploiting his opposition's weaknesses, and simple enough to be understood/implemented by the players on field.
- Anechoic 15y ago
  It is hard to believe that NFL head coaches with their large entourage of assistant coaches do not have the same information that a writer on espn has! It's not that the coaches don't have the info, it's that no play is 100% effective and coaches have to shoulder the blame if thet make a perceived "risky" call (even if it's the statisyicly best play) and it fails. Remember the decision to go for it when the Pats were facing fourth and 2 on the Colt's 28 yard line in '09? It was statistically the best option, but since they didn't convert, Belichick's been hammered for that decision ever since. If a coach on the bubble makes that call and the team doesn't convert, he's probably gone the next year. As TMQ points out, it's much safer for the coach to punt in that situation, and if the team looses it will be the players who get the blame.
  - adharmad 15y ago
    Yep I remember the 4th and 2 against Colts. However, that decision was more of a hit-or-miss. Think of the countless times a team has the ball with 2-3 mins to go. Three incomplete passes and a punt. The other team scores in the last 2 mins and wins. Except, that it was 3 rushes, it would have taken enough time off the clock to keep the ball (if they get the first down) and keep the other team from getting the ball.

int3rnaut 15y ago

I've noticed a few teams in the NHL use iPads on the bench-- besides tracking ice time, and perhaps monitoring heart rate (I think the Sabres are the only ones who monitor this during games so far) what are some of the more obvious benefits of having a device at hand that isn't already accomplished from the pressbox and relayed down to the Assistant coaches?

waterside81 15y ago
They're recording the game and are able to tap into that recording. This way, they can show players replays of certain plays. Also, I believe they have quick access to stats like faceoffs won by certain players.