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That would mean manufacturing no later than end of year this year and prototyping runs coming soon, which seems aggressive.
by pclmulqdq 3y ago
That would mean manufacturing no later than end of year this year and prototyping runs coming soon, which seems aggressive.
- my123 3y agoIt's what is done every single year. By the time this announcement happened, the chips already came back from the fab since a bit.
- mdasen 3y agoI think in a normal year, wmf might be right. However, I'm inclined to agree with you that it seems aggressive. TSMC's roadmap had N3E landing a year after N3. If the rumors of supply struggles with N3 for this fall are right, it would seem like N3E might be a stretch for Fall 2024. Maybe rumors of TSMC's N3 troubles have been exaggerated. Still, it seems unlikely that Spring 2024 will see X4 cores. It seems like there's a decent likelihood that Qualcomm will push back their Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 by 6 months to get the X4 cores (or create a Gen 3 with smaller enhancements). If TSMC's N3 is ready for Fall 2023 and N3E is a year behind that, we aren't going to see X4 cores until Fall 2024. It sounds like ARM is targeting a TSMC process that's farther out than normal - or at least seems farther out based on the information TSMC has given to the public.
- jjtheblunt 3y agoWhat rumors?
- pclmulqdq 3y agoI have heard that N3 is taking much longer to do volume ramp than normal, so Apple basically owns all N3 capacity right now.
- metadat 3y agoi.e. Big headline 14 days ago: Apple to occupy 90% of TSMC 3nm capacity in 2023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35947339 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35947339 (219 comments)