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Intent matters here, and accidents don't usually even get you ejected from a casino at all. Intentional cheating like that will get you arrested. The rules of t

Intent matters here, and accidents don't usually even get you ejected from a casino at all. Intentional cheating like that will get you arrested. The rules of the game are often controlled by a gaming commission or legislation that set the rules. Soccer doesn't have the same sort of thing.

FireBeyond 3y ago
Very much so, if you're playing blackjack and you accidentally touch cards or chips or something inadvertent, you'll just get told "Hey, you cannot do that", in varying degrees of firmness.
gumby 3y ago
Ah, so if I run a casino and come up with some new kind of game I can’t just offer it? Rather I have to get approval and perhaps some regulation is formulated just for that game? That would certainly answer my root question. Sorry if this is naïve — I don’t really know how gambling laws work at all.
- pclmulqdq 3y ago
  Games are very heavily regulated. You have to get approval, and there is a process for submitting the rules for a new game and getting it approved. Often it's the game makers who do this (and they sell the tables to the casinos for a license fee). It's easiest when it's a game that's very similar to an existing one.
- andy800 3y ago
  Every casino jurisdiction is different, (and in the US, many native American casinos are regulated by a gaming authority that is part of the same tribal nation, so it is a bit circular) but almost all require a thorough review of any new game's rules and equipment, and usually also require third-party certification of the game's theoretical odds.
orra 3y ago
I think your main point is fine but your anti analogy is flawed. FIFA and organisations like UEFA etc very much set out rules of the game. This is a lot like legislation: teams will be fined if they or the fans break the rules.
- pclmulqdq 3y ago
  That is a good point, but also, those fines are civil, not criminal. Gambling is like the FIFA situation except the government controls the rules, making the penalties criminal.
  - orra 3y ago
    Ironically, FIFA has famously been involved with criminal activity.

FireBeyond 3y ago

Very much so, if you're playing blackjack and you accidentally touch cards or chips or something inadvertent, you'll just get told "Hey, you cannot do that", in varying degrees of firmness.

gumby 3y ago

Ah, so if I run a casino and come up with some new kind of game I can’t just offer it? Rather I have to get approval and perhaps some regulation is formulated just for that game? That would certainly answer my root question. Sorry if this is naïve — I don’t really know how gambling laws work at all.

pclmulqdq 3y ago
Games are very heavily regulated. You have to get approval, and there is a process for submitting the rules for a new game and getting it approved. Often it's the game makers who do this (and they sell the tables to the casinos for a license fee). It's easiest when it's a game that's very similar to an existing one.
andy800 3y ago
Every casino jurisdiction is different, (and in the US, many native American casinos are regulated by a gaming authority that is part of the same tribal nation, so it is a bit circular) but almost all require a thorough review of any new game's rules and equipment, and usually also require third-party certification of the game's theoretical odds.

orra 3y ago

I think your main point is fine but your anti analogy is flawed. FIFA and organisations like UEFA etc very much set out rules of the game. This is a lot like legislation: teams will be fined if they or the fans break the rules.

pclmulqdq 3y ago
That is a good point, but also, those fines are civil, not criminal. Gambling is like the FIFA situation except the government controls the rules, making the penalties criminal.
- orra 3y ago
  Ironically, FIFA has famously been involved with criminal activity.