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You are wrong. And it is arguably worse than that. I'm a little skeptical about "high rollers" playing on any machine at all, but the machines are, in fact hig

You are wrong. And it is arguably worse than that. I'm a little skeptical about "high rollers" playing on any machine at all, but the machines are, in fact highly regulated and highly controlled. I'm always amused to see ads about the "loosest slots in town." It's not really false advertising, because the slots are regulated and everybody sets them at exactly the legal limit. But then there is what is allowed to happen when you don't win. If the machine has already calculated that you will not win on a particular "pull" it can manipulate the loss in advantage ways. For instance, it can land on 7-7-spinning..., spinning, one cherry away from 7. You just missed by 1! So close! The world thinks they have uncovered a big new secret when they realize that social media sites study human physiology to optimize dopamine release in their victims^H^H subscribers^H^H account holders. Casinos have been at it for lifetimes. I don't know why you would think there is a risk to the business if a casino lets a guest win an extra game or two.

dubcee349 3y ago
Not every machine is at the legal limit. Just like not every black jack table is at the best odds for casinos.
andy800 3y ago
> the slots are regulated and everybody sets them at exactly the legal limit. It's unlikely there is any slot machine in Nevada "at the legal limit." Every gaming device must be set to theoretically pay out a minimum of 75% of wagers -- i.e. the maximum it may keep (or "hold") is 25%. This is, of course, a theoretical number, on any given day a particular machine may hold more, or it may have negative hold -- just like if you flipped a coin enough times, occasionally you'd get long streaks of heads or of tails, even though theoretically it should be 50/50. In reality slot machines are typically configured to hold between 6 and 15%. A slot machine holding 25% would be an awful experience and simply not get repeat play. Slot manufacturers prepare each game with a range of options that the casino can choose from, but none of them would deliberately ruin their own game by offering a 25% hold option on a slot machine. Nevada Gaming Control Act Regulation 14: 14.040 Minimum standards for gaming devices. 1. All gaming devices must: (a) Theoretically pay out a mathematically demonstrable percentage of all amounts wagered, which must not be less than 75 percent for each wager available for play on the device. https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=18669 https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=1...
koolba 3y ago
> If the machine has already calculated that you will not win on a particular "pull" it can manipulate the loss in advantage ways. For instance, it can land on 7-7-spinning..., spinning, one cherry away from 7. You just missed by 1! So close! Showing a “near win” for a loss is completely different than manipulating the odds in real time in response to the current user. The displayed result is a loss and what matters is the chance of winning or losing must match the registered odds for the machine as an independent event. > I don't know why you would think there is a risk to the business if a casino lets a guest win an extra game or two. Because if they knowingly manipulate the odds of a game they’d be in violation of their gambling license and be shut down by the State.

dubcee349 3y ago

Not every machine is at the legal limit. Just like not every black jack table is at the best odds for casinos.

andy800 3y ago

> the slots are regulated and everybody sets them at exactly the legal limit. It's unlikely there is any slot machine in Nevada "at the legal limit." Every gaming device must be set to theoretically pay out a minimum of 75% of wagers -- i.e. the maximum it may keep (or "hold") is 25%. This is, of course, a theoretical number, on any given day a particular machine may hold more, or it may have negative hold -- just like if you flipped a coin enough times, occasionally you'd get long streaks of heads or of tails, even though theoretically it should be 50/50. In reality slot machines are typically configured to hold between 6 and 15%. A slot machine holding 25% would be an awful experience and simply not get repeat play. Slot manufacturers prepare each game with a range of options that the casino can choose from, but none of them would deliberately ruin their own game by offering a 25% hold option on a slot machine. Nevada Gaming Control Act Regulation 14: 14.040 Minimum standards for gaming devices. 1. All gaming devices must: (a) Theoretically pay out a mathematically demonstrable percentage of all amounts wagered, which must not be less than 75 percent for each wager available for play on the device. https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=18669 https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=1...

koolba 3y ago

> If the machine has already calculated that you will not win on a particular "pull" it can manipulate the loss in advantage ways. For instance, it can land on 7-7-spinning..., spinning, one cherry away from 7. You just missed by 1! So close! Showing a “near win” for a loss is completely different than manipulating the odds in real time in response to the current user. The displayed result is a loss and what matters is the chance of winning or losing must match the registered odds for the machine as an independent event. > I don't know why you would think there is a risk to the business if a casino lets a guest win an extra game or two. Because if they knowingly manipulate the odds of a game they’d be in violation of their gambling license and be shut down by the State.