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I think that depends on which government we would be talking about. I don't think they all shoot people on sight.

by kennu 15y ago

tokenadult 15y ago
I think that depends on which government we would be talking about. How much judicial process a person would get, and whether the person with the transparency grenade would be killed with or without judicial process, would indeed vary from one government to another. But it would be a rare government that would forget about searching people thought to have grenades with them in secure areas as a CONSISTENT practice. (Counterexamples to what I just wrote: A confidant of Hitler was able to bring a briefcase containing a bomb into a meeting with Hitler. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/20/newsid_3505000/3505014.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/20/new... A group of CIA operatives were assassinated by a person they believed to be an informant, who was actually a Taliban double agent. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126225941186711671.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126225941186711671.html So maybe someone attempting to penetrate a secure area, especially a trusted person, might get lucky bringing in a transparency grenade, even in the artist's intentionally provocative form. But in the general case, it is probably wiser to use better tradecraft and disguise the spying device as something harmless that belongs in the secure area.) The more serious suggestion in the page submitted here is that perhaps we can all live a little more freely if only we can find out what is being deliberated by the most secretive regimes, the regimes from whose territories we most rarely see posts on Hacker News.
- yread 15y ago
  Not that it has any connection to the thread but you missed my favourite: leader of the Northern Alliance assassinated by two fake reporters with the bomb hidden in a video camera on 9/9/01 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Shah_Massoud#Assassination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Shah_Massoud#Assassinatio...
jonhendry 15y ago
If you are seen pulling the pin from a grenade, you're likely to be shot on sight.

I think that depends on which government we would be talking about. I don't think they all shoot people on sight.

by kennu 15y ago

I think that depends on which government we would be talking about. I don't think they all shoot people on sight.

I think that depends on which government we would be talking about. How much judicial process a person would get, and whether the person with the transparency grenade would be killed with or without judicial process, would indeed vary from one government to another. But it would be a rare government that would forget about searching people thought to have grenades with them in secure areas as a CONSISTENT practice. (Counterexamples to what I just wrote: A confidant of Hitler was able to bring a briefcase containing a bomb into a meeting with Hitler. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/20/newsid_3505000/3505014.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/20/new... A group of CIA operatives were assassinated by a person they believed to be an informant, who was actually a Taliban double agent. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126225941186711671.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126225941186711671.html So maybe someone attempting to penetrate a secure area, especially a trusted person, might get lucky bringing in a transparency grenade, even in the artist's intentionally provocative form. But in the general case, it is probably wiser to use better tradecraft and disguise the spying device as something harmless that belongs in the secure area.) The more serious suggestion in the page submitted here is that perhaps we can all live a little more freely if only we can find out what is being deliberated by the most secretive regimes, the regimes from whose territories we most rarely see posts on Hacker News.

yread 15y ago
Not that it has any connection to the thread but you missed my favourite: leader of the Northern Alliance assassinated by two fake reporters with the bomb hidden in a video camera on 9/9/01 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Shah_Massoud#Assassination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Shah_Massoud#Assassinatio...

jonhendry 15y ago

If you are seen pulling the pin from a grenade, you're likely to be shot on sight.