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It might not be reasonable, but it is likely.

by stoniejohnson 3y ago

adamrezich 3y ago
why? upon what basis could you possibly make this claim?
- stoniejohnson 3y ago
  Humans engage in tribalism and racism regularly. Thus someone might assume something of that sort is at play here, though it might be an unreasonable assumption for reasons x, y, and z.
  - adamrezich 3y ago
    shameful
    - stoniejohnson 3y ago
      See my response to Tremon but resorting to an ad hominem based on an (incorrect) assumption of how I judged the situation is both rude and a waste of time.
      - adamrezich 3y ago
        it's not an ad hom—it's shameful to truly believe that all or even just most "racist" people actively take action upon their racism, given any opportunity to do so, even when it's completely obvious that said racism-based action could be obviously traced back to the person in a position of organizational leadership such that they could take said action, and that such a person is even remotely likely to exist at the top of the Rust Foundation, and that they're just so gosh-darned racist that they impulsively act upon their racism at every possible opportunity, even in blatant defiance of basic corporate self-preservation instincts, such that there's any mere semblance of a shred of a possibility that this action was "because racism." shamefully delusional, there's no way around it.
        stoniejohnson 3y ago
        Look man, in my opinion, in the current political climate this is clearly on the short list of possible bad takes for this tech scandal (hate the phrase, but it fits). That is why this thread even exists in the first place. That was my whole point. You calling me "shamefully delusional" is definitely an ad hominem no matter how many words you try to stuff in my mouth.
  - tremon 3y ago
    It takes a low mind to think low.
    - stoniejohnson 3y ago
      I don't appreciate the insult, especially saying I have a "low mind" whatever that means. I am not racist. I wouldn't wager that this was race related. But I wouldn't say that someone seeing the situation, and then making the assumption that is it is race related, is out of the realm of possibility. I would think that would be an unfortunate, but frequent, take away if the average person evaluated things at surface level. You can disagree with me here, maybe with a Gallup poll for example, without insulting me. Just because this is a sensitive topic doesn't mean you get to throw around insults and look down on another person.
pas 3y ago
hm, to me the opposite seems more likely. Rust community/leadership/confs/organizers seem very far from racism. some idiotic internal petty/interpersonal conflict seems much more likely IMHO.

It might not be reasonable, but it is likely.

adamrezich 3y ago

why? upon what basis could you possibly make this claim?

stoniejohnson 3y ago
Humans engage in tribalism and racism regularly. Thus someone might assume something of that sort is at play here, though it might be an unreasonable assumption for reasons x, y, and z.
- adamrezich 3y ago
  shameful
  - stoniejohnson 3y ago
    See my response to Tremon but resorting to an ad hominem based on an (incorrect) assumption of how I judged the situation is both rude and a waste of time.
    - adamrezich 3y ago
      it's not an ad hom—it's shameful to truly believe that all or even just most "racist" people actively take action upon their racism, given any opportunity to do so, even when it's completely obvious that said racism-based action could be obviously traced back to the person in a position of organizational leadership such that they could take said action, and that such a person is even remotely likely to exist at the top of the Rust Foundation, and that they're just so gosh-darned racist that they impulsively act upon their racism at every possible opportunity, even in blatant defiance of basic corporate self-preservation instincts, such that there's any mere semblance of a shred of a possibility that this action was "because racism." shamefully delusional, there's no way around it.
      - stoniejohnson 3y ago
        Look man, in my opinion, in the current political climate this is clearly on the short list of possible bad takes for this tech scandal (hate the phrase, but it fits). That is why this thread even exists in the first place. That was my whole point. You calling me "shamefully delusional" is definitely an ad hominem no matter how many words you try to stuff in my mouth.
- tremon 3y ago
  It takes a low mind to think low.
  - stoniejohnson 3y ago
    I don't appreciate the insult, especially saying I have a "low mind" whatever that means. I am not racist. I wouldn't wager that this was race related. But I wouldn't say that someone seeing the situation, and then making the assumption that is it is race related, is out of the realm of possibility. I would think that would be an unfortunate, but frequent, take away if the average person evaluated things at surface level. You can disagree with me here, maybe with a Gallup poll for example, without insulting me. Just because this is a sensitive topic doesn't mean you get to throw around insults and look down on another person.

pas 3y ago

hm, to me the opposite seems more likely. Rust community/leadership/confs/organizers seem very far from racism. some idiotic internal petty/interpersonal conflict seems much more likely IMHO.