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It's worth thinking about the fact that virtually the entire EU gets by with non fluoridated water.
by snovymgodym 3y ago
It's worth thinking about the fact that virtually the entire EU gets by with non fluoridated water.
- esperent 3y agoIt's in other products instead. I think it depends on the country, but usually salt and toothpaste. I don't think there are any developed countries that have stopped fluoridation entirely.
- hosteur 3y agoIt’s in toothpaste but you don’t eat that. I have never heard of it being in salt. Maybe you think of iodine?
- nulbyte 3y agoSeveral countries have flouridized table salt. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24308394/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24308394/
- ricardobeat 3y agoOnly two countries, Germany and Switzerland, have fluoridated salt.
- hammock 3y agoSalt fluoridation schemes are reaching more than 100 million people in Mexico, Colombia, Peru and Cuba as well as 85% of Switzerland and 67% of Germany.
- ricardobeat 3y agoThat was in the context of “the entire EU”.
- makeitdouble 3y agoFrance has some too, but it always was an option for those who care and not a default. As such it's clearly labelled and marketed (same for iode and other additives)
- broguinn 3y agoIsrael has completely stopped fluoridation.
- metadat 3y ago[flagged]
- beezlewax 3y agoAs a European people here often make comments about American teeth being ridiculously white and unnaturally straight. You guys went a bit far on that one.
- pb7 3y agoUnnaturally straight? What is natural to you? My teeth are perfectly straight and so is my entire family’s and none of us has ever had braces. Is that not natural? Corrected vision is unnatural. Did we go a bit far on that too? Europeans’ teeth would be white too if they smoked less.
- mc32 3y agoApparently anything man-made to modify natural outcomes is unnatural. There are extremes, like elective cosmetic surgery, fake tans, cranial implants, etc., but some things just make living as an ordinary person easier. Glasses, hearing aids, normal medicines, etc.
- beezlewax 3y agoTouché! Maybe its just the blinding whiteness then.
- akiselev 3y ago[flagged]
- oldgradstudent 3y agoWhen people destroy their natural healthy teeth to put on veneers, it's very far on that. When people destroy their teeth enamel, it's very far on that too. Destroying your natural teeth for an extra shade of blinding white or marginally straighter teeth is insane, and quite common.
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- Blackthorn 3y agoI'm sorry but the difference you can literally just see between the teeth of US vs EU should disabuse you of the notion that they "get by".
- jcfrei 3y agoNot sure if you are trolling but are you alluding that the US population has healthier teeth? The "difference you see" is most likely just the much more widespread usage of bleaching in the US (which actually worsens the health of your teeth).
- sunk1st 3y agoPreventative dental care in the US is a thing. Have you lived in Europe? It’s not really a thing in the EU.
- olodus 3y agoDo you have a reference for that? I'm from Sweden and I can definitely say preventive dental care is a huge thing here. I felt your statement sounded weird so I googled around. DMFT seems to be one index used to rank countries oral health, which is produced by WHO. In that ranking several European countries beat or sit at US levels. Do you only mean eastern Europe? This links to OECDs compilation of WHOs data, was easier to get the overview from imo: https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/health_glance-2009-12-en.pdf?expires=1685329020&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=C603935BF224DC74AD3EA3B79E03FD47 https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/health_glance-2009-1...
- heyoni 3y agoThat study is for children. Oral health problems take years to surface and looking at adults would be a better way to measure these things. Having lived in both the US and France, I can say that it’s been my experience that Americans have “nicer” looking teeth. Whether that translates into anything medically relevant is apparently really difficult to prove.
- BurnGpuBurn 3y agoAnd I am happy to live in a country that doesn't fluoridate its water. That way I can just wait out the whole scientific and political discussion and start drinking fluoridated water when it has finally and conclusively has been proven that it's beneficial. I suspect it wont be though, because it seems like the real scientists are saying no and the political scientists are saying yes.