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What? Suddenly we are in a ficitious world where there are droves of trolls disliking videos, and somehow they are sentient as to YouTube's recommendation algor

by s3p 3y ago

What? Suddenly we are in a ficitious world where there are droves of trolls disliking videos, and somehow they are sentient as to YouTube's recommendation algorithm, and they desperately want the video to disappear from everyone's recommendations, so these trolls come up with new and inventive ways of DISLIKING videos? I don't think I've ever read more made-up scenarios than on this website.

rale00 3y ago
Groups of trolls banding together to down-vote people they dislike is as old as down-vote buttons. Surely you've heard of brigading?
- sojournerc 3y ago
  right, I don't think the comment was disregarding bregading. That a multi-billion dollar company's algorithm is too dumb to deal with it is what astounds.
johnfn 3y ago
You really don't think there's a single person out there who wouldn't pay 20 bucks to a farm to downvote a competitor's video? Not a single one?
- Ntrails 3y ago
  Obviously, now they pay to upvote their own. What have we gained?
  - johnfn 3y ago
    Dwnvotes were much more powerful, so we've made it more annoying and expensive to control the algorithm.
- deleted 3y ago
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nerbert 3y ago
Google didn't think it'd be worth it to pursue a solution that would solve this, and probably nobody internally wanted ownership of it. The second best solution is the one that doesn't cost much and solve the problem. Youtube being the only game in town, where are people gonna go anyways? Daily Motion? Post implementation KPI probably showed that traffic hasn't budged, and the problem has been solved. As far as Google is concerned, it was a rational decision.
Kiro 3y ago
You don't even need to be famous in order to get trolls who are hating you so much that they make it their job to ruin your life. When you get above a certain size you will have organized troll armies coordinating attacks on private Discord servers.

by s3p 3y ago

rale00 3y ago

Groups of trolls banding together to down-vote people they dislike is as old as down-vote buttons. Surely you've heard of brigading?

sojournerc 3y ago
right, I don't think the comment was disregarding bregading. That a multi-billion dollar company's algorithm is too dumb to deal with it is what astounds.

johnfn 3y ago

You really don't think there's a single person out there who wouldn't pay 20 bucks to a farm to downvote a competitor's video? Not a single one?

Ntrails 3y ago
Obviously, now they pay to upvote their own. What have we gained?
- johnfn 3y ago
  Dwnvotes were much more powerful, so we've made it more annoying and expensive to control the algorithm.
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nerbert 3y ago

Google didn't think it'd be worth it to pursue a solution that would solve this, and probably nobody internally wanted ownership of it. The second best solution is the one that doesn't cost much and solve the problem. Youtube being the only game in town, where are people gonna go anyways? Daily Motion? Post implementation KPI probably showed that traffic hasn't budged, and the problem has been solved. As far as Google is concerned, it was a rational decision.

Kiro 3y ago

You don't even need to be famous in order to get trolls who are hating you so much that they make it their job to ruin your life. When you get above a certain size you will have organized troll armies coordinating attacks on private Discord servers.