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these kinds of "social issues" that arise from communities like these are always a huge turn-off for me, and I know I'm not the only one. I don't know enough ab
by adamrezich 3y ago
these kinds of "social issues" that arise from communities like these are always a huge turn-off for me, and I know I'm not the only one. I don't know enough about this situation or the broader context in which it took place but everything about this post, including some of the original blog post author's own comments, and some of the comments here, reinforces my desire to have nothing to do with "the Rust community", or any other programming "community" like it.
one gets the feeling that people participate in these "communities" for purely social posturing reasons, wholly unrelated to making things with computers, while still retaining the veneer of "being part of and participating in a programming language community", and that just doesn't sit right with me.
one also gets the feeling that, when some fresh drama like this happens, each of these blog posts and responses and whatnot is not-so-secretly a form of opportunistic self-aggrandizing grift.
when one of these "communities" attracts a critical mass of social-posturing drama like this, it's just too easy for an outsider like myself to say, "nah, I'm good, thanks"—and if the goal of the "community" is to make the best programming language possible, surely this must similarly dissuade others who would otherwise be down to spend countless hours actually working on the thing and making it good.
there's good lessons to be learned here all around for anyone aspiring to create a productive "community" around something like a new programming language—take heed!
- FranksTV 3y agoThe thing is for some.of the academics involved the social in-and-out are their whole careers. If you're a PhD who's entire work is about rust then this stuff matters a lot. I think that's why having more corporate involvement is probably good for these kind of orgs. Corporate types value stability because the code needs to work and be maintained long term.
- dchftcs 3y agoCorporate contributions also suffer from the same perverse incentives. If you want that promo, better make sure it's your code and proposal that made it into the standard.