zabzonk is obviously correct about the behavior of the control structures - that's not something I ever meant to disagree about. The thread had had one poster

zabzonk is obviously correct about the behavior of the control structures - that's not something I ever meant to disagree about. The thread had had one poster state they find <= suspicious in a for loop, and another about any do-while loop. I don't think these are literally the same thing (hence "if you squint") but I think they share a meaningful similarity of adding an extra pass through the loop compared to the other form and I thought that was interesting.