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> It's just that the only people who click to comment on stupid articles like this are the "electrosensitive" mentally ill What if EMFs are causing the mental

> It's just that the only people who click to comment on stupid articles like this are the "electrosensitive" mentally ill What if EMFs are causing the mental illness? This will be relevant later in this comment. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891061815000599 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S089106181... > There's no non-thermal mechanism confirmed in any reputable journal Is Pubmed not reputable? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=EMFs+non-thermal+effects https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=EMFs+non-thermal+effec... Is Elseveir not reputable? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1383571803002766 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13835... The ideas behind how this happens seem to be solidifying around EMFs affecting Voltage Gated Ion Channels: https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nyas.14597 https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ny... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0143416003002057 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01434... And hey, regarding the mental illness, you know what the number one gene linked to mental illness effects? The Voltage Gated Calcium Ion Channel (CACNA1C) https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/44/5/958/5048933 https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/44/5/... "Large-scale genome-wide association studies have consistently shown that genetic variation in CACNA1C, a gene that encodes calcium voltage-gated channel subunit alpha1C, increases risk for psychiatric disorders. "

nulld3v 3y ago
Did you read some of those PubMed articles? Some of them have comments that really question the validity of their findings. For example: I see Pall has written a bunch and this one in particular has quite a few "sus" comments: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29573716/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29573716/ The article is a meta study but there are several comments from the authors of the original studies indicating that they believe Pall did not interpret their study correctly.
- FollowingTheDao 3y ago
  I never said there were no poor researchers, or any unanswered questions. I am merely pointing out the fact that the science is nowhere near settled. But one thing you can’t do is deny my experience of electromagnetic, hyper sensitivity syndrome. And you also can’t deny my genetics.
  - fock 3y ago
    Citing yourself > First, they are only concerned about thermal changes and it is well know now that RF-EMFs have non-thermal effects on biology(1). > Second, the SAR levels were set using non-pulsed EMFs, and that makes a difference in the biology of RF-EMFs effects(2). Ah, the science is nowhere settled. I would recommend you start using the appropriate verbs in the future instead of making factual statements!
    - FollowingTheDao 3y ago
      Those bits of the science are settled.
      - fock 3y ago
        that is a lie, when these mechanisms defy both quantum mechanics and anything we know about chemistry.

nulld3v 3y ago

Did you read some of those PubMed articles? Some of them have comments that really question the validity of their findings. For example: I see Pall has written a bunch and this one in particular has quite a few "sus" comments: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29573716/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29573716/ The article is a meta study but there are several comments from the authors of the original studies indicating that they believe Pall did not interpret their study correctly.

FollowingTheDao 3y ago
I never said there were no poor researchers, or any unanswered questions. I am merely pointing out the fact that the science is nowhere near settled. But one thing you can’t do is deny my experience of electromagnetic, hyper sensitivity syndrome. And you also can’t deny my genetics.
- fock 3y ago
  Citing yourself > First, they are only concerned about thermal changes and it is well know now that RF-EMFs have non-thermal effects on biology(1). > Second, the SAR levels were set using non-pulsed EMFs, and that makes a difference in the biology of RF-EMFs effects(2). Ah, the science is nowhere settled. I would recommend you start using the appropriate verbs in the future instead of making factual statements!
  - FollowingTheDao 3y ago
    Those bits of the science are settled.
    - fock 3y ago
      that is a lie, when these mechanisms defy both quantum mechanics and anything we know about chemistry.