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Elon Musk Takes Twitter Out of the EU’s Disinformation Code of Practice

7 points by gregd 3y ago

coldtea 3y ago
Taking Twitter out of a EU bureaucracy enforced censorship scheme, where they decide what's OK to publish and what's disinformation? And that in today's political climate where e.g. in France if you swear against Macron you can be prosecuted [1] (or even arrested when at London [2]), or e.g. having a different opinion on covid measures labelled you an "anti-vaxxer that spreads disinformation" (when a little later the heads of EU where investigated for taking bribes from pharmaceutical companies) [3]? Oh, the humanity! [1] https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230329-french-woman-faces-trial-for-insulting-macron-on-facebook https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230329-french-woman-... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/19/french-publisher-arrested-in-london-was-asked-about-support-for-macron https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/19/french-publi... [3] https://www.politico.eu/article/covid19-european-commission-ursula-von-der-leyen-pfizer-the-eu-and-disappearing-ink/ https://www.politico.eu/article/covid19-european-commission-...
- jruohonen 3y ago
  These things have nothing to do with the DSA. Sure, mistakes were done during the COVID-19 pandemic, as could be expected in any serious crisis, there are corrupt politicians, and I agree that some questionable things are going on in France. Though, I doubt these hold in courts; they already backed out from the planned restrictions on the freedom of assembly. I urge you to take a look at what is happening in the Brexit land at this front.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    >These things have nothing to do with the DSA. Yeah, only with the political climate the DSA will be enforced in... >Though, I doubt these hold in courts; Doesn't matter as they can still be used by the police to harass and intimidate people. Getting arrested or just facing a legal battle and having to go through it is intimidating in itself, even if you end up winning the case. (And such fines have held in court before)
    - jruohonen 3y ago
      Ah I see. What I meant about "these things" are the corresponding French laws, not the individual person in question. The ECtHR already in 2013 raised concerns and I think also the French courts share these. https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/03/30/heres-the-story-behind-the-trending-hashtag-macronordure-macrongarbage https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/03/30/heres-the-story-...
- deleted 3y ago
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neovialogistics 3y ago
Participation in regulatory "regimes" isn't just a ball and chain that weighs down a company, it's also a shield that protects them from legal liability.

7 points by gregd 3y ago

Taking Twitter out of a EU bureaucracy enforced censorship scheme, where they decide what's OK to publish and what's disinformation? And that in today's political climate where e.g. in France if you swear against Macron you can be prosecuted [1] (or even arrested when at London [2]), or e.g. having a different opinion on covid measures labelled you an "anti-vaxxer that spreads disinformation" (when a little later the heads of EU where investigated for taking bribes from pharmaceutical companies) [3]? Oh, the humanity! [1] https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230329-french-woman-faces-trial-for-insulting-macron-on-facebook https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230329-french-woman-... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/19/french-publisher-arrested-in-london-was-asked-about-support-for-macron https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/19/french-publi... [3] https://www.politico.eu/article/covid19-european-commission-ursula-von-der-leyen-pfizer-the-eu-and-disappearing-ink/ https://www.politico.eu/article/covid19-european-commission-...

jruohonen 3y ago
These things have nothing to do with the DSA. Sure, mistakes were done during the COVID-19 pandemic, as could be expected in any serious crisis, there are corrupt politicians, and I agree that some questionable things are going on in France. Though, I doubt these hold in courts; they already backed out from the planned restrictions on the freedom of assembly. I urge you to take a look at what is happening in the Brexit land at this front.
- coldtea 3y ago
  >These things have nothing to do with the DSA. Yeah, only with the political climate the DSA will be enforced in... >Though, I doubt these hold in courts; Doesn't matter as they can still be used by the police to harass and intimidate people. Getting arrested or just facing a legal battle and having to go through it is intimidating in itself, even if you end up winning the case. (And such fines have held in court before)
  - jruohonen 3y ago
    Ah I see. What I meant about "these things" are the corresponding French laws, not the individual person in question. The ECtHR already in 2013 raised concerns and I think also the French courts share these. https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/03/30/heres-the-story-behind-the-trending-hashtag-macronordure-macrongarbage https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/03/30/heres-the-story-...
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neovialogistics 3y ago

Participation in regulatory "regimes" isn't just a ball and chain that weighs down a company, it's also a shield that protects them from legal liability.