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> The main issue is that the latter term is homogenizing: By that logic, white would be homgenizing as well, or? Someone from Prague has little in common with

> The main issue is that the latter term is homogenizing: By that logic, white would be homgenizing as well, or? Someone from Prague has little in common with a person from Massachusetts or St. Petersburg.

bckr 3y ago
Yes! You get it. The difference is that “white” is constructed as an in-group identifier, that has been adapted as needed to include previously non-white groups such as Jews and Italians.
chrsig 3y ago
I'd look towards stratified sampling to think more formally around the issue. POC is homogonizing because it's reducing the space from N strata to 2: white and non-white, blending n-1 strata. Per wikipedia: > Stratification is the process of dividing members of the population into homogeneous subgroups before sampling. The strata should define a partition of the population. That is, it should be collectively exhaustive and mutually exclusive: every element in the population must be assigned to one and only one stratum. Then simple random sampling is applied within each stratum Using this definition, white and non-white are mutually exclusive, while location of origin forms a different axis for comparison. In more social sciences, you might look to intersectionality for an explanation. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratified_sampling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratified_sampling [1] https://www.nasponline.org/resources-and-publications/resources-and-podcasts/diversity-and-social-justice/social-justice/intersectionality-and-school-psychology-implications-for-practice https://www.nasponline.org/resources-and-publications/resour...
- dj_mc_merlin 3y ago
  I fail to see how non white doesn't also reduce the strata to 2, however. Where is the third stratum?
- clcaev 3y ago
  Moreover, who is white or non-white is political: currently a certain blood quantum is necessary for being American Indian; yet, in recent history under the one drop rule, for African Americans it was the inverse. The difference is material, as former was entitled to a say in land on a reservation, while the latter did not.
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bckr 3y ago

Yes! You get it. The difference is that “white” is constructed as an in-group identifier, that has been adapted as needed to include previously non-white groups such as Jews and Italians.

chrsig 3y ago

I'd look towards stratified sampling to think more formally around the issue. POC is homogonizing because it's reducing the space from N strata to 2: white and non-white, blending n-1 strata. Per wikipedia: > Stratification is the process of dividing members of the population into homogeneous subgroups before sampling. The strata should define a partition of the population. That is, it should be collectively exhaustive and mutually exclusive: every element in the population must be assigned to one and only one stratum. Then simple random sampling is applied within each stratum Using this definition, white and non-white are mutually exclusive, while location of origin forms a different axis for comparison. In more social sciences, you might look to intersectionality for an explanation. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratified_sampling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratified_sampling [1] https://www.nasponline.org/resources-and-publications/resources-and-podcasts/diversity-and-social-justice/social-justice/intersectionality-and-school-psychology-implications-for-practice https://www.nasponline.org/resources-and-publications/resour...

dj_mc_merlin 3y ago
I fail to see how non white doesn't also reduce the strata to 2, however. Where is the third stratum?
clcaev 3y ago
Moreover, who is white or non-white is political: currently a certain blood quantum is necessary for being American Indian; yet, in recent history under the one drop rule, for African Americans it was the inverse. The difference is material, as former was entitled to a say in land on a reservation, while the latter did not.
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