4 ms·

I left because when I felt JeanHeyd's pain and disappointment at being mistreated and betrayed, my heart broke. I wept because of the cruelty. I wouldn’t want

I left because when I felt JeanHeyd's pain and disappointment at being mistreated and betrayed, my heart broke. I wept because of the cruelty. I wouldn’t want to work with someone that wrote this. I’m not sure which is worse—if it’s hyperbole or it isn’t.

pclmulqdq 3y ago
This is modern wokespeak for "what you did is unprofessional and I'm not sticking around for more." A lot of the emotional hyperbole in this blog post is essentially that - emotional vulnerability and sensitivity is valued in "hyper-woke" contexts, while words like "unprofessional" are seen as callous - and I kind of read it that way rather than literally.
- pdimitar 3y ago
  I still don't want to do them the favor of normalizing such dramatic language by accepting it. Just call it "unprofessional" if you truly feel that it was.
  - pclmulqdq 3y ago
    Unfortunately, you have to write for your audience. The audience for this piece seems to want emotional melodrama combined with diffusion of responsibility.
adave 3y ago
Let us see you rewrite it given the community culture and guidelines. Can't write i left because of toxic pieces of shit people with zero empathy.
- pdimitar 3y ago
  Not sure how much the empathy levels of someone -- not an objective metric -- should be used when making professional calls about speakers in a foundation but you do you. The underlying problem seems to be: sidestepping democratic processes. IMO that is what should be addressed first and foremost.
- bradleyjg 3y ago
  Here’s chatgpt: —- My decision to leave was driven by witnessing the negative impact on JeanHeyd resulting from the actions taken by Rust. The situation raised concerns about the treatment and the breach of trust that occurred. It made me reflect on the role I played in the development of the system and whether I want to continue to be associated with it. —- No weeping, no histrionic claims of betrayal.
  - spaetzleesser 3y ago
    That’s actually very good
    - passion__desire 3y ago
      "I decided to depart after recognizing the profound sense of disillusionment and dissatisfaction JeanHeyd experienced due to perceived unfair treatment and deception. The depth of this unfairness, reaching a level that I perceived as unjust, deeply resonated with me. This situation highlighted a need for better communication and understanding within the community, prompting my decision to step back. I express my deepest regret over these circumstances, and I sincerely hope for improvements in our conduct and interactions going forward." -- another version by ChatGPT
- kaashif 3y ago
  If you're leaving the community anyway, does it matter if you violate the CoC through being honest about your opinions?
VerminOctopus1 3y ago
I think it’s more important to engage with the contents of the post rather than your misgivings with the author’s writing style. Honestly it’s a childish approach to have.
- bradleyjg 3y ago
  Be the change you want to see in the world.
- Levitz 3y ago
  Criticizing how the author (who just left Rust) engages with the community while he himself criticizes how engagement with the community is done is rather valuable.
Ansoni-San 3y ago
Good to know you wouldn’t want to work with anyone autistic or on the spectrum. Which is the case here. The thing is that the people on here taking about “being adults” are the least tolerant or understanding that people experience things and express things differently.
- cmcaleer 3y ago
  It's bizarre that you're scolding this person for being intolerant while implying such language is to be expected of "anyone autistic or on the spectrum". To me, that is offensive stereotyping.

pclmulqdq 3y ago

This is modern wokespeak for "what you did is unprofessional and I'm not sticking around for more." A lot of the emotional hyperbole in this blog post is essentially that - emotional vulnerability and sensitivity is valued in "hyper-woke" contexts, while words like "unprofessional" are seen as callous - and I kind of read it that way rather than literally.

pdimitar 3y ago
I still don't want to do them the favor of normalizing such dramatic language by accepting it. Just call it "unprofessional" if you truly feel that it was.
- pclmulqdq 3y ago
  Unfortunately, you have to write for your audience. The audience for this piece seems to want emotional melodrama combined with diffusion of responsibility.

adave 3y ago

Let us see you rewrite it given the community culture and guidelines. Can't write i left because of toxic pieces of shit people with zero empathy.

pdimitar 3y ago
Not sure how much the empathy levels of someone -- not an objective metric -- should be used when making professional calls about speakers in a foundation but you do you. The underlying problem seems to be: sidestepping democratic processes. IMO that is what should be addressed first and foremost.
bradleyjg 3y ago
Here’s chatgpt: —- My decision to leave was driven by witnessing the negative impact on JeanHeyd resulting from the actions taken by Rust. The situation raised concerns about the treatment and the breach of trust that occurred. It made me reflect on the role I played in the development of the system and whether I want to continue to be associated with it. —- No weeping, no histrionic claims of betrayal.
- spaetzleesser 3y ago
  That’s actually very good
  - passion__desire 3y ago
    "I decided to depart after recognizing the profound sense of disillusionment and dissatisfaction JeanHeyd experienced due to perceived unfair treatment and deception. The depth of this unfairness, reaching a level that I perceived as unjust, deeply resonated with me. This situation highlighted a need for better communication and understanding within the community, prompting my decision to step back. I express my deepest regret over these circumstances, and I sincerely hope for improvements in our conduct and interactions going forward." -- another version by ChatGPT
kaashif 3y ago
If you're leaving the community anyway, does it matter if you violate the CoC through being honest about your opinions?

VerminOctopus1 3y ago

I think it’s more important to engage with the contents of the post rather than your misgivings with the author’s writing style. Honestly it’s a childish approach to have.

bradleyjg 3y ago
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Levitz 3y ago
Criticizing how the author (who just left Rust) engages with the community while he himself criticizes how engagement with the community is done is rather valuable.

Ansoni-San 3y ago

Good to know you wouldn’t want to work with anyone autistic or on the spectrum. Which is the case here. The thing is that the people on here taking about “being adults” are the least tolerant or understanding that people experience things and express things differently.

cmcaleer 3y ago
It's bizarre that you're scolding this person for being intolerant while implying such language is to be expected of "anyone autistic or on the spectrum". To me, that is offensive stereotyping.