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This, and the other articles that have popped up like it, are straw man arguments. Very few people are saying that Apple's going to combine iOS and Mac OS X int

by kylec 15y ago

This, and the other articles that have popped up like it, are straw man arguments. Very few people are saying that Apple's going to combine iOS and Mac OS X into a single OS. When people talk about the "iOSification" of Mac OS X, we're talking about bringing over the visual style of iOS (see Contacts and Calendars) and reducing functionality (see the new AirPort Utility). So, yes, Mountain Lion is different from iOS, but it's safe to say that in terms of user interface it's less different than Lion and iOS or Snow Leopard and iOS.

joejohnson 15y ago
How does the new AirPort Utility reduce functionality?
jbjohns 15y ago
> see the new AirPort Utility Minor nit for those who don't know: The AirPort utility was not supposed to be dumbed down, this is simply a complete rewrite and they haven't ported all the functionality yet. Apple created a new version of the previous client (5.6) that will run along-side the current version until they can port the remaining functionality.
bo1024 15y ago
Yes, I don't think the author has thought much about these kinds of issues. Two particular nitpicks that come to my mind are reverse scrolling and automatic termination. Reverse scrolling -- drag down to scroll up -- may be natural on a touchscreen, but why bring it to the PC and switch away from the way you had done it before (and everyone else does it)? Automatic termination -- shutting down apps in the background without asking you -- also makes sense on a mobile device, but is just a bad idea for computers. By themselves, these kinds of things don't mean much, but these sorts of decisions and some coming mntn lion "feautures" seem to show a pretty clear trend of bringing mobile-inspired features to OS X, regardless of whether they make sense in that context.
- easp 15y ago
  Your examples don't resonate for me. With respect to scrolling, clearly how everyone else does it doesn't matter to Apple, since they are willing to change the way they have always done it. So why did they do it? Because it makes obvious sense on a touch device, and because there is nothing wrong with it on laptop or desktop. The annoyance lasted about 5 minutes for me. As for the automatic app management, why doesn't this make sense on OS X? Because that's how it has always been done? Again, not at all persuasive. And honestly, the OS has long been responsible for resource management, why shouldn't it terminate and launch apps transparently? I think though that you and many others are missing the point about transparently terminating and restarting apps. It is just part of being able to restore ones workspace after a restart, which is itself just part of creating a seamless pervasive personal computing environment.

by kylec 15y ago

joejohnson 15y ago

How does the new AirPort Utility reduce functionality?

jbjohns 15y ago

> see the new AirPort Utility Minor nit for those who don't know: The AirPort utility was not supposed to be dumbed down, this is simply a complete rewrite and they haven't ported all the functionality yet. Apple created a new version of the previous client (5.6) that will run along-side the current version until they can port the remaining functionality.

bo1024 15y ago

Yes, I don't think the author has thought much about these kinds of issues. Two particular nitpicks that come to my mind are reverse scrolling and automatic termination. Reverse scrolling -- drag down to scroll up -- may be natural on a touchscreen, but why bring it to the PC and switch away from the way you had done it before (and everyone else does it)? Automatic termination -- shutting down apps in the background without asking you -- also makes sense on a mobile device, but is just a bad idea for computers. By themselves, these kinds of things don't mean much, but these sorts of decisions and some coming mntn lion "feautures" seem to show a pretty clear trend of bringing mobile-inspired features to OS X, regardless of whether they make sense in that context.

easp 15y ago
Your examples don't resonate for me. With respect to scrolling, clearly how everyone else does it doesn't matter to Apple, since they are willing to change the way they have always done it. So why did they do it? Because it makes obvious sense on a touch device, and because there is nothing wrong with it on laptop or desktop. The annoyance lasted about 5 minutes for me. As for the automatic app management, why doesn't this make sense on OS X? Because that's how it has always been done? Again, not at all persuasive. And honestly, the OS has long been responsible for resource management, why shouldn't it terminate and launch apps transparently? I think though that you and many others are missing the point about transparently terminating and restarting apps. It is just part of being able to restore ones workspace after a restart, which is itself just part of creating a seamless pervasive personal computing environment.