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So basically “I don’t like your article” is enough to get a speaker removed in the rust conf / rust leadership space? Ngl, that looks like teen drama. Really

by znpy 3y ago

So basically “I don’t like your article” is enough to get a speaker removed in the rust conf / rust leadership space? Ngl, that looks like teen drama. Really poor leadership, it seems there wasn’t even an attempt at mediation, or a vote, or anything.

ummonk 3y ago
Yeah, and merely over some random technical article, not controversial politics or anything.
- jasonwatkinspdx 3y ago
  Well, for context the speaker pointed out in the past that there were no presenters of color at Rust conf at the time, and they themselves would have been the first person of color to do a keynote if they'd been allowed to do it. I don't know if that was a motivation here by the person who went solo or if they were just personally jilted over a technical disagreement about the best way to handle reflection, but from the outside it looks quite bad regardless, which shows again more consideration should have been paid to this decision.
kitd 3y ago
Well, not removed, just downgraded. But yes, it does smell a bit drama-queen.
- znpy 3y ago
  I’d say drama queens on both sides
brabel 3y ago
> Really poor leadership, it seems there wasn’t even an attempt at mediation, or a vote, or anything. The post claims that THERE WAS a vote, and that vote was to give the person a keynote talk... that was somehow rejected by the Rust Project... as the blog post asks at the end, how the heck can someone just say to the Rust Leadership, your vote is just void as I don't like the person or the talk?! How is that possible? Is the Leadership vote just accepted if the top dog likes the result, but not to be taken seriously otherwise?? How do people actually accept this kind of bullshit? If you are in the Rust Leadership, do you just accept being just a token like that? With your votes being completely ignored unless it aligns with the real power broker?

by znpy 3y ago

ummonk 3y ago

Yeah, and merely over some random technical article, not controversial politics or anything.

jasonwatkinspdx 3y ago
Well, for context the speaker pointed out in the past that there were no presenters of color at Rust conf at the time, and they themselves would have been the first person of color to do a keynote if they'd been allowed to do it. I don't know if that was a motivation here by the person who went solo or if they were just personally jilted over a technical disagreement about the best way to handle reflection, but from the outside it looks quite bad regardless, which shows again more consideration should have been paid to this decision.

kitd 3y ago

Well, not removed, just downgraded. But yes, it does smell a bit drama-queen.

znpy 3y ago
I’d say drama queens on both sides

brabel 3y ago

> Really poor leadership, it seems there wasn’t even an attempt at mediation, or a vote, or anything. The post claims that THERE WAS a vote, and that vote was to give the person a keynote talk... that was somehow rejected by the Rust Project... as the blog post asks at the end, how the heck can someone just say to the Rust Leadership, your vote is just void as I don't like the person or the talk?! How is that possible? Is the Leadership vote just accepted if the top dog likes the result, but not to be taken seriously otherwise?? How do people actually accept this kind of bullshit? If you are in the Rust Leadership, do you just accept being just a token like that? With your votes being completely ignored unless it aligns with the real power broker?