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Very offtopic, but using your real name and making such statements implying that you are representing your company in this very matter (and going against their

Very offtopic, but using your real name and making such statements implying that you are representing your company in this very matter (and going against their narrative) is rarely a wise thing to do.

draw_down 3y ago
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jghn 3y ago
At some point in one's career you hit a point where you say what you want to say. Preferably it isn't bullshit, but if you believe in it, go for it.
- not_your_vase 3y ago
  > At some point in one's career you hit a point where you say what you want to say. Yes, this happens usually when you are a C-level executive, and not a software dev intern, like this guy. He hasn't even started his career...
  - xnyan 3y ago
    > this happens usually when you are a C-level executive I hope this not true for most people. I feel like most people I work with respond well to honesty as opposed to varnished corpo-speak. I’m a new senior engineer and have just started speaking in a relatively unguarded way if that makes any difference.
    - not_your_vase 3y ago
      Don't mix up internal honesty with public shit-talking. The former is welcome at almost all places. I'm sure there are some companies that tolerate it when an employee criticizes them (or call them dishonest/disingenuous, as in this case) in an open, external forum, but this is most definitely not the norm. If you work for such a company, then lucky you, I guess?
      - joebob42 3y ago
        I think "welcome at almost all places" is dramatically overstating it. I think you are more likely to get in trouble for shit talking internally than externally, if only because the people who care are more likely to hear.
dietr1ch 3y ago
> making such statements implying that you are representing your company I don't see any, that's his personal view on the history of the company, which is implied he knows slightly better than your average Joe
- peddling-brink 3y ago
  Because big companies generally don’t want anyone speaking for them unless the statement has been carefully vetted. Mere rumors can cause material stock price changes, that could cause direct trouble, or even trigger an SEC investigation.
0xFF0123 3y ago
There's quite a difference between saying "they have done..." vs "we have done".. IMO the latter implicates representation, the former does not.
- not_your_vase 3y ago
  Haha, imagine selling it to HR "Y-y-yes, I specifically emphasized that I work at State Farm so I know what's really going on, but I used 'they' to emphasize that this post has nothing to do with State Farm". But I guess this subthread is getting longer than it deserves to be. I'm not saying OP did anything wrong, but people use throwaway accounts with a reason. Employees have been terminated for much dumber reasons.
birdyrooster 3y ago
I understand State Farm independent agents have a lot of latitude. Maybe that is what is happening.

draw_down 3y ago

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jghn 3y ago

At some point in one's career you hit a point where you say what you want to say. Preferably it isn't bullshit, but if you believe in it, go for it.

not_your_vase 3y ago
> At some point in one's career you hit a point where you say what you want to say. Yes, this happens usually when you are a C-level executive, and not a software dev intern, like this guy. He hasn't even started his career...
- xnyan 3y ago
  > this happens usually when you are a C-level executive I hope this not true for most people. I feel like most people I work with respond well to honesty as opposed to varnished corpo-speak. I’m a new senior engineer and have just started speaking in a relatively unguarded way if that makes any difference.
  - not_your_vase 3y ago
    Don't mix up internal honesty with public shit-talking. The former is welcome at almost all places. I'm sure there are some companies that tolerate it when an employee criticizes them (or call them dishonest/disingenuous, as in this case) in an open, external forum, but this is most definitely not the norm. If you work for such a company, then lucky you, I guess?
    - joebob42 3y ago
      I think "welcome at almost all places" is dramatically overstating it. I think you are more likely to get in trouble for shit talking internally than externally, if only because the people who care are more likely to hear.

dietr1ch 3y ago

> making such statements implying that you are representing your company I don't see any, that's his personal view on the history of the company, which is implied he knows slightly better than your average Joe

peddling-brink 3y ago
Because big companies generally don’t want anyone speaking for them unless the statement has been carefully vetted. Mere rumors can cause material stock price changes, that could cause direct trouble, or even trigger an SEC investigation.

0xFF0123 3y ago

There's quite a difference between saying "they have done..." vs "we have done".. IMO the latter implicates representation, the former does not.

not_your_vase 3y ago
Haha, imagine selling it to HR "Y-y-yes, I specifically emphasized that I work at State Farm so I know what's really going on, but I used 'they' to emphasize that this post has nothing to do with State Farm". But I guess this subthread is getting longer than it deserves to be. I'm not saying OP did anything wrong, but people use throwaway accounts with a reason. Employees have been terminated for much dumber reasons.

birdyrooster 3y ago

I understand State Farm independent agents have a lot of latitude. Maybe that is what is happening.