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I'm going to upvote this on the general principle that I've seen a lot of programmers who don't quite know what parsing is, but reading a 310-page book is perha
by drostie 15y ago
I'm going to upvote this on the general principle that I've seen a lot of programmers who don't quite know what parsing is, but reading a 310-page book is perhaps not the best way to familiarize them with it.
The basic thing that a programmer needs to know about parsing is that regular expressions usually aren't. The big problem with regular expressions is that they have real trouble handling nested modes. Just to give a modestly complicated example of what can happen from a simple grammar with nesting, imagine a grammar with just single-letter variables and parentheses, parsed into Python with tuples:
a(bc)def
=> ('a', ('b', 'c'), 'd', 'e', 'f')
You might be able to get a regular expression engine to deal with that for you, but it will tend to fail on something slightly more complicated like this:
a(b((cde)f)(g)h)ij
...because it will usually either be too conservative and start matching:
(b((cde)
or else it will sometimes be too aggressive and start matching:
((cde)f)(g)
Perl is a big exception; Perl actually has a syntax to make regular expressions properly recursive.
A good practical example for you to think about is CSV parsing. In CSV, a field can sometimes be quoted so that it may contain commas, and two quoting-symbols inside that field is interpreted as a single quoting-symbol too. Thus to create a table containing a chat, we might have to write:
Reginald,I think life needs more scare-quotes.
Beartato,"That's nice, Reginald."
Reginald,"Don't you mean ""nice""?"
Beartato,Aah! Your scare-quotes scared me!
With a straightforward character-by-character parser this is pretty easy to parse; you check for the «,» character and append another record onto the row, check for the «\n» character to append this row to the table, and when you see «"» you enter a special string-parsing mode which does not exit until it sees an odd number of quote marks pass by, bordered by two non-quote marks. (The fact that you might have to "peek ahead" leads to interesting parse combinators which have to be able to succeed or fail without moving the cursor forward.)
At one of my jobs I actually spent some time outside of work making CSV parsing faster by using a dangerous hack: you can split on the quote character first, to have the native string code handle the basic division of the table; then the even fields contain CSV data without quoted text (or occasionally empty strings, which must be interpreted as commands to add the quote character and the following text to the preceding field), and the odd fields contain raw data to be entered into a new record. (I call it a dangerous hack because I remember the thing working at first, but eventually I believe three bugs came out on more complicated CSV files -- it was very hard to "see that it worked right" due to the extra overhead needed to move all of this character-by-character logic into the split() calls of my programming language.
- silentbicycle 15y agoRegular expressions are for lexing (breaking up input into tokens, AKA "tokenizing"), parsers are for assembling a stream of tokens into a parse tree (according to a grammar). You can kinda-sorta get away with parsing via regular expressions, but "surprisingly complex" regular expressions (http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html) should be a sign that you're using the wrong tool. De-coupling lexing from parsing also means that your grammar won't be cluttered by issues like whitespace handling. Perl's RE extensions can be used to do some parsing, albeit at the cost of potentially exponential runtime (http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html * ), since they're NP-complete (http://perl.plover.com/NPC/NPC-3SAT.html http://perl.plover.com/NPC/NPC-3SAT.html). (Congrats, your parser is now a denial-of-service attack vector!) * If you find this article interesting, you'll probably love _Parsing Techniques_. > I'm going to upvote this on the general principle that I've seen a lot of programmers who don't quite know what parsing is, but reading a 310-page book is perhaps not the best way to familiarize them with it. This book is a _reference_. For someone who wants to learn basic parsing techniques, I'd first direct them to something like Niklaus Wirth's _Compiler Construction_ (PDF: http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/WirthPubl/CBEAll.pdf http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/WirthPubl/CBEAll.pdf), which has a quick and clear introduction to recursive descent parsing, but only briefly touches on other methods. The Grune book is for when you need to understand the trade-offs between (say) different kinds of chart parsers, how parser generators work, classic performance optimizations in Earley parsers, or error handling strategies. It has quite a bit more depth to it, as well as an excellent bibliography. The second edition was updated in 2008, and adds a lot of new content.
- spacemanaki 15y agoSince you brought up lexing I'm going to ask a really noob-ish question: does this book (by Grune) deal with lexing at all? If it doesn't, is it because parsing is the more interesting/complicated of the two? I've recently started getting into a few "traditional" compiler resources after reading a lot of Lisp centric compiler books (Lisp in Small Pieces... SICP, PAIP) where lexing and parsing are kind of handled by (read) so this is a whole new world for me.