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Cognitive decline is a real thing. Experience counts for a lot, but it doesn't help with creativity. One of the things in technology is that novel problems of

by yarg 3y ago

Cognitive decline is a real thing. Experience counts for a lot, but it doesn't help with creativity. One of the things in technology is that novel problems often require novel solutions - and most of us aren't Knuth. Beyond a point age counts against you more than it helps.

phpisthebest 3y ago
I am going to guess you are in your 20's or 30's... I bet when you hit 50 you will be seeing the world differently
- yarg 3y ago
  I'm as likely to complain about agism in sport as to change my position on this. The simple truth is that sometimes reality is shit, and none of us is immune to decay. We can't yet change the nature of aging, but there is value in wisdom and it does lead to people being pushed upwards in organisational hierarchies. But it's not a column - it's a tree, so there's also exponential decay in the number of people required. Meaning that the vast majority get pushed out not up. Look at C-levels, there's agism there as well - but the population isn't high enough to counteract the average trend at lower levels. Biology does not care about your feelings, eventually everyone ceases to function at a cellular level - this is gradual rather than sudden, it sneaks up on you with the men you used to be nipping at your heels, but surpassing you in the end. The same will happen to them one day. Sucks to be a meat machine. Just be glad you're in a field that depends on the mind rather than the body.
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Your arguments and feelings on the topic don't really matter, discrimination against older employees is illegal.
    - yarg 3y ago
      Discrimination on the grounds of age might be, discrimination on the grounds of competence is not.
      - flangola7 3y ago
        Then why are you bringing up "biology" and a bunch of other garbage like a Reddit neckbeard?
        yarg 3y ago
        Because competency degrades with cognitive decline which accelerates with age. What part of that do you think I've imagined?
  - phpisthebest 3y ago
    You have said alot of words with out saying anything to support your position on ageism. Sure we all will suffer decline, and we will all die, this truth does not support wide scale discrimination on generalized age. We all will suffer this decline at different points in life, based on many factors age, diet, exposure, etc etc. Some people in their 30's may already be suffering this decline, where others in their 70's have not yet... So then the case should be made for individualistic competency based parameters, not an arbitrary age based delineation. your statement was in support of that idea that simply based on age alone, not cognitive, competency or other factors should be the determination of your fitness for a given role in society. Later comments you then want to change this goal post to be competency based, so which is it, at age 65 should every person be put out to pasture, or should it be individualized competency based, where if a person is suffering from decline and can not longer do the job then and only then do they get removed?
    - yarg 3y ago
      > your statement was in support of that idea that simply based on age alone, not cognitive... > Cognitive decline is a real thing. Literally the first line of my first comment on the issue.

by yarg 3y ago

phpisthebest 3y ago

I am going to guess you are in your 20's or 30's... I bet when you hit 50 you will be seeing the world differently

yarg 3y ago
I'm as likely to complain about agism in sport as to change my position on this. The simple truth is that sometimes reality is shit, and none of us is immune to decay. We can't yet change the nature of aging, but there is value in wisdom and it does lead to people being pushed upwards in organisational hierarchies. But it's not a column - it's a tree, so there's also exponential decay in the number of people required. Meaning that the vast majority get pushed out not up. Look at C-levels, there's agism there as well - but the population isn't high enough to counteract the average trend at lower levels. Biology does not care about your feelings, eventually everyone ceases to function at a cellular level - this is gradual rather than sudden, it sneaks up on you with the men you used to be nipping at your heels, but surpassing you in the end. The same will happen to them one day. Sucks to be a meat machine. Just be glad you're in a field that depends on the mind rather than the body.
- flangola7 3y ago
  Your arguments and feelings on the topic don't really matter, discrimination against older employees is illegal.
  - yarg 3y ago
    Discrimination on the grounds of age might be, discrimination on the grounds of competence is not.
    - flangola7 3y ago
      Then why are you bringing up "biology" and a bunch of other garbage like a Reddit neckbeard?
      - yarg 3y ago
        Because competency degrades with cognitive decline which accelerates with age. What part of that do you think I've imagined?
- phpisthebest 3y ago
  You have said alot of words with out saying anything to support your position on ageism. Sure we all will suffer decline, and we will all die, this truth does not support wide scale discrimination on generalized age. We all will suffer this decline at different points in life, based on many factors age, diet, exposure, etc etc. Some people in their 30's may already be suffering this decline, where others in their 70's have not yet... So then the case should be made for individualistic competency based parameters, not an arbitrary age based delineation. your statement was in support of that idea that simply based on age alone, not cognitive, competency or other factors should be the determination of your fitness for a given role in society. Later comments you then want to change this goal post to be competency based, so which is it, at age 65 should every person be put out to pasture, or should it be individualized competency based, where if a person is suffering from decline and can not longer do the job then and only then do they get removed?
  - yarg 3y ago
    > your statement was in support of that idea that simply based on age alone, not cognitive... > Cognitive decline is a real thing. Literally the first line of my first comment on the issue.