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> It’s important we get it right. I really want to echo this. We are talking about millions of lives a year right now, and basically every human has been infe
by gtop3 3y ago
> It’s important we get it right.
I really want to echo this. We are talking about millions of lives a year right now, and basically every human has been infected. We need a solid answer for why some people have long term health impacts and others do not. There are many brilliant people working on this problem. Let's accept that this might actually be a complicated long term problem.
- momirlan 3y agonever been infected. maybe I'm not "basically" human
- spywaregorilla 3y ago> basically every human has been infected A majority, maybe. Certainly not "basically every human".
- lazide 3y agoKnow any sizable groups that haven’t been exposed? It’s pretty statistically unlikely at this point.
- tomrod 3y agoA lot of vaccinated folks, perhaps.
- lazide 3y agoSo vaccination stops you from being exposed? Pretty sure that's not true!
- spywaregorilla 3y agoExposed does not mean infected. That's an entirely different claim. Most people have probably been exposed. Further, I'm not claiming there are large homogenous groups that are unilaterally uninfected.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoI don't personally know anyone who has definitely not had COVID. I know some people who suspect they had it, but couldn't or didn't get tested at the time. Everyone else I know confirmed they had it, some with symptoms and some without. It's possible some significant percentage of people had it, but don't know they had it due to lack of symptoms and no positive test, I'll give you that. I doubt the percentage of people who has never had it at all is over 1% though, I'd guess closer to 0.01-0.1%
- Izkata 3y ago> but don't know they had it due to lack of symptoms and no positive test Let's try not to be lazy with language: If they had no symptoms, then they didn't have COVID-19, the disease defined by a combination of its cause and symptoms.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoAre you suggesting symptom-free people who still tested positive didn't actually have it? Because I suspect for every asymptomatic person who only know they had it due to a positive test (maybe they were being cautious following a possible exposure), there are more asymptomatic people who never thought to get tested, and therefore don't know they had it.
- Izkata 3y agoThey were infected with SARS-CoV-2, they didn't get COVID-19. I've poked at it on and off for years, but it does really annoy me how people mean the first when they say the second. It's been so bad for so long that few people actually understood Pfizer's press release for their vaccine back in 2020, which did distinguish between the two terms. Ended up in pretty regular arguments with people claiming "Pfizer said..." when Pfizer said no such thing, they just didn't understand what Pfizer did say. This includes media and politicians (not that I was arguing with them, but that they were also wrong and people were using them as sources).
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- x86x87 3y agoYup. Not every human. Exposed? Maybe. Infected? Nope.
- Izkata 3y agoExcept it's not a new problem, it's rebranded post-viral syndrome / post-viral fatigue. It's just the first time most people have heard of it.