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Depends on what exactly you want to do with it. Hetzner has very cheap Storage boxes (10TB for $20/month with unlimited traffic) but those are closer to FTP box

Depends on what exactly you want to do with it. Hetzner has very cheap Storage boxes (10TB for $20/month with unlimited traffic) but those are closer to FTP boxes with a 10 connection limit. They are also down semi-regularly for maintenance. For rock-solid public hosting Cloudflare is probably a much better bet, but you're also paying 7 times the price. More than a dedicated server to host the files, but you get more on other metrics.

codersfocus 3y ago
I wouldn't call Cloudflare rocksolid, assuming you mean their R2 offering. It goes down pretty regularly.
novok 3y ago
Hetzner is also fairly slow network bandwidth wise unless you're in Europe.
yakubin 3y ago
Wow! It's the first time I'm hearing of this Hetzner offering. It's ideal for my offsite backup needs. Thanks!
- stavros 3y ago
  I think rsync.net is much cheaper. They frequently run offers, I think I pay $40/yr for 2 TB or something.
  - yakubin 3y ago
    I don't know about any special offers, but looking at standard pricing on rsync.net it would cost me $15/month for 1TB, while on Hetzner the same would cost me €3.94/month.
    - rsync 3y ago
      Email us … HN readers’ discount, etc.
  - qingcharles 3y ago
    2TB is currently $324/yr if paid yearly at rsync.net. I would love to use them as they hang out here, but their prices are way too expensive for my needs.
    - dano 3y ago
      I use Wasabi at $4.99 per month for 1TB and backup using borg and rclone. I serve only a few files, so I don't know the egress limitations.
  - kiwijamo 3y ago
    I back up to both rsync and Hetzner. Both have reasonable costs and rsync has given me good long term discounts too without even asking.
KomoD 3y ago
> Hetzner has very cheap Storage boxes (10TB for $20/month with unlimited traffic) * based on fair use at 250 TB/mo: > In order to continue hosting your servers with us, the traffic use will need to be drastically reduced. Please check your servers and confirm what is using so much traffic, making sure it is nothing abusive, and then find ways of reducing it.
- coverband 3y ago
  Thanks. It’s important to be very much aware of this when being enticed by the promise of unlimited bandwidth.
- j45 3y ago
  Thanks for finding this. Unlimited rarely is. Looks like backblaze (other post below) has a free bandwidth and cheap storage solution
  - KomoD 3y ago
    Backblaze B2 is only free with Bandwidth Alliance partners, otherwise $0.01/GB, individual transactions will also cost you, depending on how much you use.
    - j45 3y ago
      Individual transaction pricing: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html# https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html# Bandwidth Alliance introduced me to bunny.net, interesting find.
fragmede 3y ago
That's if you use their CDN. Cloudflare R2 doesn't charge for egress bandwidth. If you have 100TB/mo to serve, try it and see what happens. I haven't heard of anyone being kicked off of R2 for using too much egress bandwidth yet. At scale, you'll pay a couple thousand dollars for Class B operations on R2, and another bunch for storing the 10 TB in the first place, but that's relatively cheap compared to other offerings where you'd pay for metered egress bandwidth. https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/ https://r2-calculator.cloudflare.com/ https://r2-calculator.cloudflare.com/
- hatf0 3y ago
  CF is not particularly fond of non-Enterprise customers serving more than a few TB/mo. Source: $corp serves 150 TB/mo via CF and pays somewhere north of 50k+/yr for it
  - danielheath 3y ago
    We’re doing 60/mo on their $20 plan so far and it’s not been a problem.
  - maxgashkov 3y ago
    They have released this updated to their ToS recently: https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos/ The whole point of R2 is to remove predatory practices of egregious charging for egress, and if somehow they went back on this promise that would be a very bad PR.
throwaway2990 3y ago
Been looking at hetzner for their arm cloud offering. But I can’t figure out if instances upgraded or do you need to terminate and rebuild. support seems non existent cos no one answers emails or web chat…
- chwzr 3y ago
  You can rescale cloud servers at hetzner, but you will need to shutdown the server in the process
  - throwaway2990 3y ago
    That’s ok. As long as I don’t need to set it up again. Thank you!

codersfocus 3y ago

I wouldn't call Cloudflare rocksolid, assuming you mean their R2 offering. It goes down pretty regularly.

novok 3y ago

Hetzner is also fairly slow network bandwidth wise unless you're in Europe.

yakubin 3y ago

Wow! It's the first time I'm hearing of this Hetzner offering. It's ideal for my offsite backup needs. Thanks!

stavros 3y ago
I think rsync.net is much cheaper. They frequently run offers, I think I pay $40/yr for 2 TB or something.
- yakubin 3y ago
  I don't know about any special offers, but looking at standard pricing on rsync.net it would cost me $15/month for 1TB, while on Hetzner the same would cost me €3.94/month.
  - rsync 3y ago
    Email us … HN readers’ discount, etc.
- qingcharles 3y ago
  2TB is currently $324/yr if paid yearly at rsync.net. I would love to use them as they hang out here, but their prices are way too expensive for my needs.
  - dano 3y ago
    I use Wasabi at $4.99 per month for 1TB and backup using borg and rclone. I serve only a few files, so I don't know the egress limitations.
- kiwijamo 3y ago
  I back up to both rsync and Hetzner. Both have reasonable costs and rsync has given me good long term discounts too without even asking.

KomoD 3y ago

> Hetzner has very cheap Storage boxes (10TB for $20/month with unlimited traffic) * based on fair use at 250 TB/mo: > In order to continue hosting your servers with us, the traffic use will need to be drastically reduced. Please check your servers and confirm what is using so much traffic, making sure it is nothing abusive, and then find ways of reducing it.

coverband 3y ago
Thanks. It’s important to be very much aware of this when being enticed by the promise of unlimited bandwidth.
j45 3y ago
Thanks for finding this. Unlimited rarely is. Looks like backblaze (other post below) has a free bandwidth and cheap storage solution
- KomoD 3y ago
  Backblaze B2 is only free with Bandwidth Alliance partners, otherwise $0.01/GB, individual transactions will also cost you, depending on how much you use.
  - j45 3y ago
    Individual transaction pricing: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html# https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html# Bandwidth Alliance introduced me to bunny.net, interesting find.

fragmede 3y ago

That's if you use their CDN. Cloudflare R2 doesn't charge for egress bandwidth. If you have 100TB/mo to serve, try it and see what happens. I haven't heard of anyone being kicked off of R2 for using too much egress bandwidth yet. At scale, you'll pay a couple thousand dollars for Class B operations on R2, and another bunch for storing the 10 TB in the first place, but that's relatively cheap compared to other offerings where you'd pay for metered egress bandwidth. https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/ https://r2-calculator.cloudflare.com/ https://r2-calculator.cloudflare.com/

hatf0 3y ago
CF is not particularly fond of non-Enterprise customers serving more than a few TB/mo. Source: $corp serves 150 TB/mo via CF and pays somewhere north of 50k+/yr for it
- danielheath 3y ago
  We’re doing 60/mo on their $20 plan so far and it’s not been a problem.
- maxgashkov 3y ago
  They have released this updated to their ToS recently: https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/updated-tos/ The whole point of R2 is to remove predatory practices of egregious charging for egress, and if somehow they went back on this promise that would be a very bad PR.

throwaway2990 3y ago

Been looking at hetzner for their arm cloud offering. But I can’t figure out if instances upgraded or do you need to terminate and rebuild. support seems non existent cos no one answers emails or web chat…

chwzr 3y ago
You can rescale cloud servers at hetzner, but you will need to shutdown the server in the process
- throwaway2990 3y ago
  That’s ok. As long as I don’t need to set it up again. Thank you!