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He didn't say the weather isnt changing, he said the proposed solutions misplace the blame and spread the burdon of solutions disproportionatly from the source

He didn't say the weather isnt changing, he said the proposed solutions misplace the blame and spread the burdon of solutions disproportionatly from the source of the problem.

ivan_gammel 3y ago
I do not really understand that “misplacing of the blame”. It’s an ordinary Joe who buys a car and a fuel for it. It is an ordinary Joe who hunts for cheap airline tickets and buys all those tiny things that are shipped overseas. The same Joe votes for politicians that deregulate and offer tax reductions and binges Netflix instead of reading some good books. Ignorance is a choice of majority of population. Ten billionaires cannot spoil the climate by overconsumption. Ten million Joes can easily do that and capitalism just found the way to help them.
- brookst 3y ago
  “Misplace the blame” just means asking me to accept some responsibility rather than my preferred outgroups.
- imoverclocked 3y ago
  Your lines drawn are odd to me. Billionaires are regular Joes but with a lot more influence and buying power. Instead of the plane ticket for a week vacation, it’s a rocket program to get one ride to space. A single rocket launch is easily the equivalent of 10 average Americans yearly co2 production. There are hundreds (thousands?) of people employed to make the things go, all of which has its own carbon footprint. There are many rockets launched and engine tests in the development of a rocket program. In 2022 SpaceX launched 180 successful rockets. Without private jets and carbon emissions of other business practices, we are already at a multiplier of over a thousand for a single billionaire. Ten billionaires produce a small towns worth of co2 (again, without private jets and extended effects of their business models) When we look at the average Joe who can not afford to live close to work or buy an electric vehicle, it gets even harder to try and say, “The problem is created by you and needs to be solved by you.” The problem is all of ours. You, the reader of this comment and me, the writer, are both part of the problem and solution. People with a lot of influence that control information are huge multipliers in solving or prolonging the problem. That is why huge corporations shifting the blame and disrupting the truth is such an issue.

He didn't say the weather isnt changing, he said the proposed solutions misplace the blame and spread the burdon of solutions disproportionatly from the source of the problem.

ivan_gammel 3y ago

I do not really understand that “misplacing of the blame”. It’s an ordinary Joe who buys a car and a fuel for it. It is an ordinary Joe who hunts for cheap airline tickets and buys all those tiny things that are shipped overseas. The same Joe votes for politicians that deregulate and offer tax reductions and binges Netflix instead of reading some good books. Ignorance is a choice of majority of population. Ten billionaires cannot spoil the climate by overconsumption. Ten million Joes can easily do that and capitalism just found the way to help them.

brookst 3y ago
“Misplace the blame” just means asking me to accept some responsibility rather than my preferred outgroups.
imoverclocked 3y ago
Your lines drawn are odd to me. Billionaires are regular Joes but with a lot more influence and buying power. Instead of the plane ticket for a week vacation, it’s a rocket program to get one ride to space. A single rocket launch is easily the equivalent of 10 average Americans yearly co2 production. There are hundreds (thousands?) of people employed to make the things go, all of which has its own carbon footprint. There are many rockets launched and engine tests in the development of a rocket program. In 2022 SpaceX launched 180 successful rockets. Without private jets and carbon emissions of other business practices, we are already at a multiplier of over a thousand for a single billionaire. Ten billionaires produce a small towns worth of co2 (again, without private jets and extended effects of their business models) When we look at the average Joe who can not afford to live close to work or buy an electric vehicle, it gets even harder to try and say, “The problem is created by you and needs to be solved by you.” The problem is all of ours. You, the reader of this comment and me, the writer, are both part of the problem and solution. People with a lot of influence that control information are huge multipliers in solving or prolonging the problem. That is why huge corporations shifting the blame and disrupting the truth is such an issue.