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Yes. Right and wrong are invariant under incentives to do the wrong thing. That's why we call them right and wrong, rather than optimal or not. You will never
by andrewflnr 3y ago
Yes. Right and wrong are invariant under incentives to do the wrong thing. That's why we call them right and wrong, rather than optimal or not.
You will never get everyone moving in the right direction if you dogpile the first one to take a step. In practice, these changes almost always require someone to do it on their own before anyone else takes the idea seriously.
- crazygringo 3y agoExcept that different people call different things right and wrong. There are no absolute rights and wrongs, people disagree deeply over ethics. Which is why you need to work on convincing people to come around to your idea. Then you can implement it through university policy, law, etc. We didn't come up with speed limits because a bunch of people decided to drive slower on their own and then the idea caught on. No, we came up with arguments as to why speed limits save lives, made it legislative policy with enforcement mechanisms, and then it works. Effective change is coordinated. People going rogue on their own gets you nowhere.
- andrewflnr 3y agoExcept no one actually disagrees that cheating is wrong, including the cheaters, so none of that "convincing others" stuff is relevant here. I don't know why you and so many other people in these threads want to pretend cheating is ethically complicated. It's not.