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Hard work is also a talent Saw Tom Cruise’s latest stunt video last night When they show you the final stunt cut, it’s very impressive When you watch the pro

by nico 3y ago

Hard work is also a talent Saw Tom Cruise’s latest stunt video last night When they show you the final stunt cut, it’s very impressive When you watch the process, you realize they started with a super safe basic version of the stunt and practiced incrementally for months/years until they got it right It took a lot of hard work to put it together and do it safely The thing is at first you might think: oh wow, Tom Cruise is so incredibly talented, then when watching the process you might think: oh, it’s just hard work But then when you see how much hard work, you realize: oh, that’s also talent

vasco 3y ago
Being able to work long and hard is a talent, but people discount how much can be gained by consistently showing up. Putting in the work will _always_ increase your chances of doing well. The worst thing you can do to yourself is convince yourself you are powerless to change your situation.
- waboremo 3y ago
  Great summary, and this is also why a lot of people quit their dreams before they even began. It's also why having great parents encourage this consistency at a young age is so powerful, it's not really innate talent anointed by the gods, but decades of consistency. We just see a 20 year old show up and be great at [skill] compared to their counterparts and then label them innately talented, but ignore the years of showing up. It's universally true, Celine Dion started singing when she was 5, Michael Jordan when he was 5. We aren't just talking carelessly singing or mindless games (although it might have felt that way to the child), but serious efforts: Celine for example was encouraged by family to sing at weddings at a young age. She came from a musical family so she was encouraged to compose, work on musical technique, etc. it wasn't random singing but already "professionally" training. For some this is dreadful to hear, if they weren't doing some skill as a child their lives are over. However I would reframe that, it's quite optimistic. You can do what you dream of if you start right now and realize it's going to take years of showing up.
  - orbz 3y ago
    Kind of makes you wonder about the process of apprenticeship from the renaissance period where kids would start in a trade at 7-12 and literally live with the masters that taught them. Is that what it takes for greatness in a craft?
    - waboremo 3y ago
      It does make you think about that process, Leonardo da Vinci for example was already training at ~14 due to his father's status letting him train under the renowned Verrocchio. We already see several things here: parents with enough resources to seek strong mentors where they cannot be, wanting to foster specific skills, and a kid showing up consistently. Potentially, our extreme infantilization of kids and teens (helicopter parenting, baby voice talking, avoiding responsibilities/recognition of skill, etc) have likely been a huge reason why many are stuck with this "fixed mindset" noted in the article. It feeds into the myth as well, someone like Leonardo appearing in public "fully formed" would seem like he was god-like when you're the same age.
  - foogazi 3y ago
    > It's also why having great parents Is that talent or hard work ? How did THEY become great ? There are a lot of links on the causal chain
    - waboremo 3y ago
      Neither: great in that sentence was about being a positive supportive parent.
thunderbong 3y ago
Link to the video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lsFs2615gw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lsFs2615gw

by nico 3y ago

vasco 3y ago

Being able to work long and hard is a talent, but people discount how much can be gained by consistently showing up. Putting in the work will _always_ increase your chances of doing well. The worst thing you can do to yourself is convince yourself you are powerless to change your situation.

waboremo 3y ago
Great summary, and this is also why a lot of people quit their dreams before they even began. It's also why having great parents encourage this consistency at a young age is so powerful, it's not really innate talent anointed by the gods, but decades of consistency. We just see a 20 year old show up and be great at [skill] compared to their counterparts and then label them innately talented, but ignore the years of showing up. It's universally true, Celine Dion started singing when she was 5, Michael Jordan when he was 5. We aren't just talking carelessly singing or mindless games (although it might have felt that way to the child), but serious efforts: Celine for example was encouraged by family to sing at weddings at a young age. She came from a musical family so she was encouraged to compose, work on musical technique, etc. it wasn't random singing but already "professionally" training. For some this is dreadful to hear, if they weren't doing some skill as a child their lives are over. However I would reframe that, it's quite optimistic. You can do what you dream of if you start right now and realize it's going to take years of showing up.
- orbz 3y ago
  Kind of makes you wonder about the process of apprenticeship from the renaissance period where kids would start in a trade at 7-12 and literally live with the masters that taught them. Is that what it takes for greatness in a craft?
  - waboremo 3y ago
    It does make you think about that process, Leonardo da Vinci for example was already training at ~14 due to his father's status letting him train under the renowned Verrocchio. We already see several things here: parents with enough resources to seek strong mentors where they cannot be, wanting to foster specific skills, and a kid showing up consistently. Potentially, our extreme infantilization of kids and teens (helicopter parenting, baby voice talking, avoiding responsibilities/recognition of skill, etc) have likely been a huge reason why many are stuck with this "fixed mindset" noted in the article. It feeds into the myth as well, someone like Leonardo appearing in public "fully formed" would seem like he was god-like when you're the same age.
- foogazi 3y ago
  > It's also why having great parents Is that talent or hard work ? How did THEY become great ? There are a lot of links on the causal chain
  - waboremo 3y ago
    Neither: great in that sentence was about being a positive supportive parent.

thunderbong 3y ago

Link to the video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lsFs2615gw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lsFs2615gw