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> Can someone explain the potential repercussion from this kind of foolishness? Lawyer sues openAI for megabucks because they didn’t have a warning about using

> Can someone explain the potential repercussion from this kind of foolishness? Lawyer sues openAI for megabucks because they didn’t have a warning about using ChatGPT as a paralegal and they got sanctioned by the court. Thirty years of practicing law and they (plural, two lawyers involved) “accidentally” submitted the output from a multi-billion dollar company’s toy without doing any checks?

viraptor 3y ago
It's right there by the input box: > ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts. That really should be sufficient as "not fit for legal work without full review".
- sschueller 3y ago
  But wasn't it openAI bragging that ChatGPT4 can pass the bar exam?
  - viraptor 3y ago
    Passing a test and doing the job are different things. Do you think a 5yo who passed MS certification could do the job? https://www.electronicproducts.com/five-year-old-becomes-the-youngest-person-to-pass-a-microsoft-certified-professional-exam/ https://www.electronicproducts.com/five-year-old-becomes-the...
    - sschueller 3y ago
      Obviously not, but there are a lot of people who don't get that. Look how many people thought Tesla had full self driving when it says in the user agreement that they don't.
      - sebzim4500 3y ago
        This isn't hidden in a user agreement, it's on the front page.
        sschueller 3y ago
        Yes on the front page /s " Full Self-Driving Capability Build upon Enhanced Autopilot and order Full Self-Driving Capability on your Tesla. This doubles the number of active cameras from four to eight, enabling full self-driving in almost all circumstances, at what we believe will be a probability of safety at least twice as good as the average human driver. The system is designed to be able to conduct short and long distance trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat. For Superchargers that have automatic charge connection enabled, you will not even need to plug in your vehicle. All you will need to do is get in and tell your car where to go. If you don’t say anything, the car will look at your calendar and take you there as the assumed destination or just home if nothing is on the calendar. Your Tesla will figure out the optimal route, navigate urban streets (even without lane markings), manage complex intersections with traffic lights, stop signs and roundabouts, and handle densely packed freeways with cars moving at high speed. When you arrive at your destination, simply step out at the entrance and your car will enter park seek mode, automatically search for a spot and park itself. A tap on your phone summons it back to you. Please note that Self-Driving functionality is dependent upon extensive software validation and regulatory approval, which may vary widely by jurisdiction. It is not possible to know exactly when each element of the functionality described above will be available, as this is highly dependent on local regulatory approval. Please note also that using a self-driving Tesla for car sharing and ride hailing for friends and family is fine, but doing so for revenue purposes will only be permissible on the Tesla Network, details of which will be released next year. " https://web.archive.org/web/20171116234123/https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://web.archive.org/web/20171116234123/https://www.tesla...
        sebzim4500 3y ago
        I mean the ChatGPT disclaimer
    - cookieperson 3y ago
      Could probably fall under the guise of false advertising. AI companies are commonly guilty of that. But I haven't seen an AI company go after legal professionals yet...
  - permo-w 3y ago
    I sincerely doubt it’s ChatGPT that could pass the bar exam
  - 8bitsrule 3y ago
    Not sure ... do bar exams include physically looking up citations?

viraptor 3y ago

It's right there by the input box: > ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts. That really should be sufficient as "not fit for legal work without full review".

sschueller 3y ago
But wasn't it openAI bragging that ChatGPT4 can pass the bar exam?
- viraptor 3y ago
  Passing a test and doing the job are different things. Do you think a 5yo who passed MS certification could do the job? https://www.electronicproducts.com/five-year-old-becomes-the-youngest-person-to-pass-a-microsoft-certified-professional-exam/ https://www.electronicproducts.com/five-year-old-becomes-the...
  - sschueller 3y ago
    Obviously not, but there are a lot of people who don't get that. Look how many people thought Tesla had full self driving when it says in the user agreement that they don't.
    - sebzim4500 3y ago
      This isn't hidden in a user agreement, it's on the front page.
      - sschueller 3y ago
        Yes on the front page /s " Full Self-Driving Capability Build upon Enhanced Autopilot and order Full Self-Driving Capability on your Tesla. This doubles the number of active cameras from four to eight, enabling full self-driving in almost all circumstances, at what we believe will be a probability of safety at least twice as good as the average human driver. The system is designed to be able to conduct short and long distance trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat. For Superchargers that have automatic charge connection enabled, you will not even need to plug in your vehicle. All you will need to do is get in and tell your car where to go. If you don’t say anything, the car will look at your calendar and take you there as the assumed destination or just home if nothing is on the calendar. Your Tesla will figure out the optimal route, navigate urban streets (even without lane markings), manage complex intersections with traffic lights, stop signs and roundabouts, and handle densely packed freeways with cars moving at high speed. When you arrive at your destination, simply step out at the entrance and your car will enter park seek mode, automatically search for a spot and park itself. A tap on your phone summons it back to you. Please note that Self-Driving functionality is dependent upon extensive software validation and regulatory approval, which may vary widely by jurisdiction. It is not possible to know exactly when each element of the functionality described above will be available, as this is highly dependent on local regulatory approval. Please note also that using a self-driving Tesla for car sharing and ride hailing for friends and family is fine, but doing so for revenue purposes will only be permissible on the Tesla Network, details of which will be released next year. " https://web.archive.org/web/20171116234123/https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://web.archive.org/web/20171116234123/https://www.tesla...
        sebzim4500 3y ago
        I mean the ChatGPT disclaimer
  - cookieperson 3y ago
    Could probably fall under the guise of false advertising. AI companies are commonly guilty of that. But I haven't seen an AI company go after legal professionals yet...
- permo-w 3y ago
  I sincerely doubt it’s ChatGPT that could pass the bar exam
- 8bitsrule 3y ago
  Not sure ... do bar exams include physically looking up citations?