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most games are available on amazon. popular games like rayman raving rabids for wii, motorstorm for ps3, and underground 2 for ps2 are still available new. more

most games are available on amazon. popular games like rayman raving rabids for wii, motorstorm for ps3, and underground 2 for ps2 are still available new. more niche games like frequency for ps2 and older gen games like crash warped for ps1 are still available refurbished. pretty much any console game from the last 25 years that didn't totally flop is available in good condition from a major retailer. the rest are around at boutiques and on the used market. we get public domain in 70 years just like everything else, and i can't think of an argument for any game being more of a public good than works of other types like lolita, the search for animal chin, or paul's boutique.

jrm4 3y ago
70 years AFTER THE THE DEATH OF THE AUTHOR. Still sound reasonable?
musicale 3y ago
> is available in good condition from a major retailer I don't think Nintendo gets a cut of used game sales; †he first-sale doctrine should still apply.
wtallis 3y ago
> we get public domain in 70 years just like everything else, Nitpick: video games are almost always a work-for-hire, so it's 95 years after publication (or 120 years after creation, in the unusual event that publication gets delayed long enough for this deadline to expire first).
- andrepd 3y ago
  Incredible that this is normalised. When a law is "you can enjoy cultural creations of 2007 in 2102", disobeying it is legitimate.
  - ta34719586_1 3y ago
    Your logic is flawed. You may already enjoy that creation by paying for it, just like you would for many other cultural items. Or was it just sarcasm?
    - danaris 3y ago
      If there is no legal way to obtain the game, or no practical way to obtain the system to play it on, then you can't enjoy it. This is one of the most important purposes of emulation: it allows for digital archival of otherwise-obsolete hardware and software.
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makomk 3y ago
By the time these games enter the public domain, there'll be no way to play them except via an emulator and no way to develop an emulator if there's not one already - the flash holding the OS on all the Wiis out there will have long bitrotted away. Hell, a lot of the newer Wii Us are already dying due to flash failure just from being switched off for a few years. Strict copyright and DRM enforcement would most likely lead to this era of games being lost forever, just like many older films from a century or more ago have been lost.
- asveikau 3y ago
  > Hell, a lot of the newer Wii Us are already dying due to flash failure just from being switched off for a few years. I thought I heard that this is actually a specific brand with chip defects. Googling found: https://hackmd.io/d12Fq9g-QlCjN2HJp7Yvew https://hackmd.io/d12Fq9g-QlCjN2HJp7Yvew Its mostly the hynix flash chips.

jrm4 3y ago

70 years AFTER THE THE DEATH OF THE AUTHOR. Still sound reasonable?

musicale 3y ago

> is available in good condition from a major retailer I don't think Nintendo gets a cut of used game sales; †he first-sale doctrine should still apply.

wtallis 3y ago

> we get public domain in 70 years just like everything else, Nitpick: video games are almost always a work-for-hire, so it's 95 years after publication (or 120 years after creation, in the unusual event that publication gets delayed long enough for this deadline to expire first).

andrepd 3y ago
Incredible that this is normalised. When a law is "you can enjoy cultural creations of 2007 in 2102", disobeying it is legitimate.
- ta34719586_1 3y ago
  Your logic is flawed. You may already enjoy that creation by paying for it, just like you would for many other cultural items. Or was it just sarcasm?
  - danaris 3y ago
    If there is no legal way to obtain the game, or no practical way to obtain the system to play it on, then you can't enjoy it. This is one of the most important purposes of emulation: it allows for digital archival of otherwise-obsolete hardware and software.

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makomk 3y ago

By the time these games enter the public domain, there'll be no way to play them except via an emulator and no way to develop an emulator if there's not one already - the flash holding the OS on all the Wiis out there will have long bitrotted away. Hell, a lot of the newer Wii Us are already dying due to flash failure just from being switched off for a few years. Strict copyright and DRM enforcement would most likely lead to this era of games being lost forever, just like many older films from a century or more ago have been lost.

asveikau 3y ago
> Hell, a lot of the newer Wii Us are already dying due to flash failure just from being switched off for a few years. I thought I heard that this is actually a specific brand with chip defects. Googling found: https://hackmd.io/d12Fq9g-QlCjN2HJp7Yvew https://hackmd.io/d12Fq9g-QlCjN2HJp7Yvew Its mostly the hynix flash chips.