i would guess any one that hasn't been demolished yet can be termed a success, but it probably depends on your definition of 'success'. i think of all the 'slu

i would guess any one that hasn't been demolished yet can be termed a success, but it probably depends on your definition of 'success'. i think of all the 'slums' that Robert Moses and other folks demolished throughout history. they could have used a little investment instead of disinvestment/neglect, but even as is, they were successes in most folks' views -- including and especially the people that lived in those neighborhoods and buildings -- but Moses and others had the power. does public housing provide housing to people? yes. does that make it a success? i would say 'yes' -- maybe a qualified yes. is it still a success if there is crime and no heat and etc.? still maybe a 'yes', since the other option is probably homelessness and jail and near-total loss of dignity, but again, goes back to one's definition of success. shoot, this lefty-ish video (11 min) says it's currently illegal for the US to build more (federal?) public housing -- tf? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw0KqSNHXqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw0KqSNHXqg but i kind of see 'successful public housing' as 'successful [insert federal program here]' -- if a program was grandfathered in a long time ago, it might be able to stick around for a while, but even then it will continue to be under relentless attack until it is gone -- think Social Security or public education or, as the video points out, public housing. and creating new 'successful' public programs of any kind today is probably completely off the table -- unless it's really just a facade for grift -- a way to filter a few billion/trillion to private enterprise -- think Department of Homeland Security. even where there is massive public support for a federal program -- think Medicare for All (free/taxpayer/public-funded health care) -- maybe 70% of the population wants it, depending on which polling firms/questions are asked -- and there is little to no chance of it becoming reality because the US is a low-democracy country. but change is always possible if the population decides to fight back. i heard an anecdote, i think from 'Poverty, By America' (Matthew Desmond), about a convergence of protests in DC where a group of Maga protesters and a group of Civil Rights protesters happened to see each other and ended up shaking hands in solidarity with each other over either the expensive cost of housing or cost of living or something. that makes sense to me. we're not there yet, but it always seems like a possibility that is lurking around the corner. https://bookshop.org/p/books/poverty-by-america-matthew-desmond/18603208 https://bookshop.org/p/books/poverty-by-america-matthew-desm...