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I'm not trying to hate on Anand but this has big '200 IQ research mathematician says it's a myth that you have to be a genius to become a successful research ma

by ftxbro 3y ago

I'm not trying to hate on Anand but this has big '200 IQ research mathematician says it's a myth that you have to be a genius to become a successful research mathematician' energy.

necovek 3y ago
It reads more like "I don't have a photographic memory, instead, I build relations and add contextual cues that help remember details of situations". There is no claim about the IQ at all, it's all focused on how memory works. And even if the tricks to improve our memorization are the same, everyone will still have different abilities and capacity with a focus on specific things (like remembering chess positions vs chess "non-positions", as referenced from that study with random placement). Some people will do these tricks intuitively, yet others need to train, but being explicit seems important especially as the pressure on the memory grows ("revise, revise, revise"). This has nothing to do with the IQ, which is more like CPU power instead of L1/L2 cache or RAM (books and notes would be floppy or hard drives ;)).
- ftxbro 3y ago
  > "There is no claim about the IQ at all" > "This has nothing to do with the IQ" sorry i forgot that people on the internet don't understand analogies Maybe it would have been clearer if I would have said something more like "this has big 'guy with half meter arm circumference says it's a myth that you have to have big arms to be good at arm wrestling' energy." Who knows though. Maybe then I would have got schooled on Anand's arm circumference.
  - necovek 3y ago
    I hear you on your analogies, but memory and intelligence are tightly coupled, which makes yours a bad one in this context. There is no need for a generalization ("people on the internet" have a hard time communicating precisely, right?). If you used your second one, I'd make it clear that I still disagree with the analogy: yes, someone great at something can be aware of limits others face in comparison. Humans do learn without direct experience too! You similarly continue with making a bad analogy about getting "schooled on ... arm circumference": other than side remarks that you quoted, I do not "school you on IQ" (which would be analogous), but rather on the "memory", which was the original article topic.

by ftxbro 3y ago

I'm not trying to hate on Anand but this has big '200 IQ research mathematician says it's a myth that you have to be a genius to become a successful research mathematician' energy.

necovek 3y ago

It reads more like "I don't have a photographic memory, instead, I build relations and add contextual cues that help remember details of situations". There is no claim about the IQ at all, it's all focused on how memory works. And even if the tricks to improve our memorization are the same, everyone will still have different abilities and capacity with a focus on specific things (like remembering chess positions vs chess "non-positions", as referenced from that study with random placement). Some people will do these tricks intuitively, yet others need to train, but being explicit seems important especially as the pressure on the memory grows ("revise, revise, revise"). This has nothing to do with the IQ, which is more like CPU power instead of L1/L2 cache or RAM (books and notes would be floppy or hard drives ;)).

ftxbro 3y ago
> "There is no claim about the IQ at all" > "This has nothing to do with the IQ" sorry i forgot that people on the internet don't understand analogies Maybe it would have been clearer if I would have said something more like "this has big 'guy with half meter arm circumference says it's a myth that you have to have big arms to be good at arm wrestling' energy." Who knows though. Maybe then I would have got schooled on Anand's arm circumference.
- necovek 3y ago
  I hear you on your analogies, but memory and intelligence are tightly coupled, which makes yours a bad one in this context. There is no need for a generalization ("people on the internet" have a hard time communicating precisely, right?). If you used your second one, I'd make it clear that I still disagree with the analogy: yes, someone great at something can be aware of limits others face in comparison. Humans do learn without direct experience too! You similarly continue with making a bad analogy about getting "schooled on ... arm circumference": other than side remarks that you quoted, I do not "school you on IQ" (which would be analogous), but rather on the "memory", which was the original article topic.