> Another point Alan brought up is that if a program is careless enough not to allocate a new pty, it's probably also careless enough not to close any fd's that

> Another point Alan brought up is that if a program is careless enough not to allocate a new pty, it's probably also careless enough not to close any fd's that might be open in the parent shell or by the program itself. Oof, weird inference. File inheritance is pretty well known. TIOCSTI is really esoteric.